Olga's Letters

[thelastimpofrussia]

Will the search never end?

[Sunny]

I feel a bit guilty for having started such a mess!

[clockworkgirl21]

No, don't feel guilty! If Olga never said that quote, it's important for us Romanov fans to know! Look at the mistakes we've believed for decades: Ortipo being Ortino, "schvibzik" meaning imp, even the possibility of Anastasia's survival.

[thelastimpofrussia]

Hold up, its not Oritino?! And I forgot what Schvibzik mean? (all I know is its German)

[Sunny]

No, don't feel guilty! If Olga never said that quote, it's important for us Romanov fans to know! Look at the mistakes we've believed for decades: Ortipo being Ortino

I'v e re - read Ortino/Ortipo's therad hundred of times but still can't understand wheter the poor thing was called OrtiNo or OrtiPo! Since i'm writing also about her (was she a female, right? she had puppies...) i'd like to know her real name, poor dog...

[Sarushka]

Will the search never end?

Never! :^)

And I forgot what Schvibzik mean? (all I know is its German)

In German, schwipsig means "tipsy."

I'v e re - read Ortino/Ortipo's therad hundred of times but still can't understand whether the poor thing was called OrtiNo or OrtiPo! Since i'm writing also about her (was she a female, right? she had puppies...) i'd like to know her real name, poor dog...

Yes, Ortipo was female.

I use OrtiPo because all the Russian sources I have (except one, which I just received) use the P spelling. Also, Lili Dehn, who would have heard the dog's name spoken, calls her "Artipo" in her memoirs.

[nena]

If you ask me, "Artipo" is the most correct form, since it's identic written form for Russian's pronounciation for "Ortipo".

Remember that Russian's 'O' is pronounced as 'A'. ;-) (Addition on regarding this: However, I can't tell for sure if there are special cases, one Russ would know for sure) 

[aleksandr pavlovich]

If you ask me, "Artipo" is the most correct form, since it's identic written form for Russian's pronounciation for "Ortipo".

Remember that Russian's 'O' is pronounced as 'A'. ;-) (Addition on regarding this: However, I can't tell for sure if there are special cases, one Russ would know for sure)  

Correct, "nena, " re the soundings of the Russian "O"/"A" (and I believe this has been discussed on the Forum before).  Many years ago I had to continually force myself to correctly pronounce a Russian friend's name, "Oleg" ("Олег"), as "AH-leg."   Regards,  AP.

[Sunny]

Thanks Nena; i was qquite sure about akan'e, since i was pretty sure of the accent on "i", so Artìpo, but i was glad you confirmed me this!

[blessOTMA]

Does the name " Ortipo"  have a meaning? ..or is it simply a name.
Interesting how she named both dogs that...the first  one who died fatherly quickly and the one who died when TN did

[Sarushka]

Does the name " Ortipo"  have a meaning? ..or is it simply a name.

As far as I know it's just a name.

Interesting how she named both dogs that...the first  one who died fatherly quickly and the one who died when TN did

It seems to have been common in the family -- Anastasia had two dogs named Shvybzik, and Aleksei had two dogs named Shot.

[Antonina]

"I wrote a small letter to Chern. and got a reply the next day. Please thank him and pass on our big regards to him."

 "Do you have any news about Mal. and Nik. Dmit.?"
 
"How come up to now you've not seen [each other?]? And is little Chern[ychev?]. here? Give him my warmest regards if you see him. I wrote on the holiday."

All these quotes (and some others I've read only in Russian) from letters to Ritka applys to the same person - not Chernychev, but Malenkyi Chernogorets (little Montenegrian), Dzhurkovich,  warrant officer of the Ljubljana's regiment, who was seriously wounded in 1916 and became one of Olga's favourite patients (she wrote in her diary: "He is very nice, and I love him").
Tatiana signed his name on this photo:


I'm not sure about the order, but I think it's him:

[blessOTMA]

Fantastic! Thank you!

[nena]

Fantastic! Thank you!

I second that -- one regiment of  Montenegrin soldiers  took place during Russo- Japanese war in 1905. Ljubljana's is capital of Slovenia, a country in Balkan. And we know that Olga liked all that is Russian/Slavic.

[Janet Ashton]

"I wrote a small letter to Chern. and got a reply the next day. Please thank him and pass on our big regards to him."

 "Do you have any news about Mal. and Nik. Dmit.?"
 
"How come up to now you've not seen [each other?]? And is little Chern[ychev?]. here? Give him my warmest regards if you see him. I wrote on the holiday."

All these quotes (and some others I've read only in Russian) from letters to Ritka applys to the same person - not Chernychev, but Malenkyi Chernogorets (little Montenegrian), Dzhurkovich,  warrant officer of the Ljubljana's regiment, who was seriously wounded in 1916 and became one of Olga's favourite patients (she wrote in her diary: "He is very nice, and I love him").

Now I'm puzzled. In 1916 any "Lubljana Regiment" was part of the Austro-Hungarian Army, Lubljana being the city of Laibach and indeed a garrison town for several regiments, not too far from the horrendous battles going on on the Austrian-Italian front along the Soca/Isonzo River. It's not impossible that Montenegrins would have been serving in it (assuming that people from the Austro-Hungarian territories around Kotor Bay already identified as "Montenegrins") - but how would such an officer end up in a Russian hospital? Unless "Lubljana's Regiment" has some other meaning here?

(The tables of Austrian regiments suggest that the Lubljana regiments were actually mainly of German ethnicity - or, paradoxically, Slovak rather than Slovene or other South Slav).