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« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2007, 12:23:41 PM »
Good pictures of Prince Edward, I especially like the last one of the four siblings together.

Can the Earldom of Wessex and the Viscountcy of Severn by inherited by Princess Louise?

I think it would be nice for Princess Louise to be Countess of Wessex in her own right.

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« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2007, 03:10:46 PM »
Good pictures of Prince Edward, I especially like the last one of the four siblings together.

Can the Earldom of Wessex and the Viscountcy of Severn by inherited by Princess Louise?

I think it would be nice for Princess Louise to be Countess of Wessex in her own right.

I know where this is going to go, but I'll ask anyway.....isn't it better to call Lady Louise by the title her parents wish her to have and the title the sovereign has announced she will be referred to by than by the title we think is best?

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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2007, 03:26:43 PM »
You can call her what you want, and I'll call HRH what I want - her legal title.

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« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2007, 03:42:08 PM »
Good pictures of Prince Edward, I especially like the last one of the four siblings together.

Can the Earldom of Wessex and the Viscountcy of Severn by inherited by Princess Louise?

I think it would be nice for Princess Louise to be Countess of Wessex in her own right.

Sadly Lady Louise can NOT inherit the titles given to her father.  Of course there's nothing to stop a new Letters Patent ??  As Im sure you know, it has been confirmed and decided that upon the death of his parents - HM The Queen AND HRH The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh... Prince Edward will be created DUKE OF EDINBURGH.... so perhaps by then, if Lady Louise is the only child of Edward & Sophie (as seems likely?)... well who knows??


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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2007, 03:57:48 PM »
I thought Edward would be made Duke of Edinburgh as soon as Philip dies. But does both his parents have to be dead for him to be the new DofE?  ???

I'm sure Princess Louise will be their only child. It was so difficult for Sophie even to have her.  :(

I think new letters patent might come along giving Louise the right to be the 2nd Countess of Wessex. But probably not Duchess of Edinburgh (the 3rd).

Will Edward be called the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh? Or will it have to be a new creation not connected to the previous creation?

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« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2007, 04:09:04 PM »
I thought Edward would be made Duke of Edinburgh as soon as Philip dies. But does both his parents have to be dead for him to be the new DofE?  ???

I'm sure Princess Louise will be their only child. It was so difficult for Sophie even to have her.  :(

I think new letters patent might come along giving Louise the right to be the 2nd Countess of Wessex. But probably not Duchess of Edinburgh (the 3rd).

Will Edward be called the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh? Or will it have to be a new creation not connected to the previous creation?

When Edward married, it was announced that upon the death of both his parents, he would be created DUKE OF EDINBURGH.  Otherwise if Prince Philip died tomorrow (God forbid)... technically the Dukedom of Edinburgh, the Earldom of Merioneth and the Barony of Greenwich would be succeeded by his eldest son and heir - HRH The Prince of Wales, and thus when he becomes King - the titles revert to the Crown.  If HM The Queen died - HRH The Prince of Wales would immediately succeed, and thus any titles he had or subsequently inherited, also revert to the Crown.  Also - as the title is heavily associated with Philip, it also makes practical sense for both of them to die and create a "break".

It was decided that a new Letters Patent would be issued.  HRH The Prince of Wales has apparently already agreed to a new creation.  After all is it is befitting that Edward becomes a Royal Duke, and he has continued the work of his father with the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme.  So as it would be a new creation, he would be the 1st Duke.

Its a shame that Edward & Sophie seem unlikely to have any other children.   They look a loving family and Im sure they would really want more children, but not at the expense of The Countess' health.


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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2007, 04:11:00 PM »
I thought Edward would be made Duke of Edinburgh as soon as Philip dies. But does both his parents have to be dead for him to be the new DofE?  ???

I'm sure Princess Louise will be their only child. It was so difficult for Sophie even to have her.  :(

I think new letters patent might come along giving Louise the right to be the 2nd Countess of Wessex. But probably not Duchess of Edinburgh (the 3rd).

Will Edward be called the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh? Or will it have to be a new creation not connected to the previous creation?

When Philip dies, Charles will become Duke of Edinburgh. Only when he becomes king and the title is 'merged with the crown' will it become available for a new creation. Edward will be (if he gets the title) first duke of this new creation.
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« Reply #99 on: March 10, 2007, 04:33:33 PM »

From the Royal website....  http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page5586.asp

The Earl of Wessex is the third son and youngest child of The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh.

Born in 1964, he was known as Prince Edward until his marriage, when he was created The Earl of Wessex and Viscount Severn.

At the same time it was announced that His Royal Highness will be given the title Duke of Edinburgh in due course, when the present title now held by Prince Philip eventually reverts to the Crown.


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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2007, 09:35:52 PM »
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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #101 on: March 30, 2007, 04:48:03 AM »
 :) They are nice photos, but pity we can't see Princess Louise's face properly, due to the glasses.

Could anyone tell me why was Prince Edward not created a Marquess upon marriage? I know he was not created a Duke because he will get the title Duke of Edinburgh when it reverts to the Crown, but why was he made an Earl rather than the superior title of Marquess?

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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #102 on: March 30, 2007, 10:37:41 AM »
Maybe because the title 'earl' is more familiar to most people than that of marquess. Just a thought. I don't think any royal has had 'Marquess' as their highest title in a long time.  ???
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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #103 on: March 30, 2007, 10:53:06 AM »
I thought it was his choice to be an Earl for the time being (until he comes Duke of Edinburgh) because it's a lesser title.

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Re: Edward and Sophie, Earl and Countess of Wessex
« Reply #104 on: March 30, 2007, 02:29:08 PM »
Marquess is a lesser title than Duke as well.  ::) But above an Earldom. Most Dukedoms have an Marquessate as well, which is used as subsidiary title for the eldest son and heir. Most Dukedoms were formerly Marquessates and then were upgraded to Dukedoms. The title of Marquess is quite familiar in Britain - it is to me! I was just reading about the  Marquess of Bath before, he is so hilarious.  :D
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