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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2007, 07:57:12 PM »
Love the tea photo !  ;) It is in the same books ? Never seen them before?  ???

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2007, 08:27:39 PM »
They're in one (or more) of the Romanov photo books.
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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2007, 08:58:44 PM »
Most likely from Russia I guess.  :P

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2007, 10:56:53 PM »
I think I've seen at least some of the photos in English-language ones--Love, Power and Tragedy maybe? Defnitely the Russian ones though. And if you want more work, some were published in Russian periodicals of the day--the Tercentary photos at least.
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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2008, 02:36:24 PM »
Hello,

I'd like to know if there is evidence on the meeting of the GD Elisbeth and Vladimir, according to the testimony they got on well, but when they are first met, their attitude was just such a immediately warm or a little tense?

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #95 on: May 16, 2011, 07:27:01 AM »
What was Grandduchess Elizabeth relationsship with her aunt and sister-in-law Maria Alexandrowna afore and after the divorce of
Ernest-Louis and Victoria-Melita?

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #96 on: May 16, 2011, 11:56:39 AM »
Somebody on this thread commented that Elizaveta and Serge were a strange couple. this echos my own feelings and from what we read, those of QV too!!! I would never seek to doubt her goodness and piety, she was undoubtedly a devout woman and a committed Christian but........might she have felt vulnerable as a widow in a louche society, and, having been subjected once to a marriage which may not have been what she hoped for, decided to permanently remove herself from the marriage "market" by taking herself into a convent where she would be safe from unwanted male interest. I'm not blaming her. I feel very strongly, that finding herself released from the type of marriage I believe she may have experienced,she wasn't about to risk another which may turn out to be similar.

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2011, 12:47:13 PM »
What was Grandduchess Elizabeth relationsship with her aunt and sister-in-law Maria Alexandrowna afore and after the divorce of
Ernest-Louis and Victoria-Melita?


As it seen from the correspondence of Elizaveta and diary of her husband GD Sergei the relationship of 2 women was always sincere and the divorce of EL and VM didn't affect it.

Though it's interesting what Maria thought of Elizaveta...Let's wait for the publication of Maria's letters to her daughter Marie - something new definitely come to the light.
In Russian publication of some Maria's letters I've found Maria's words that she never loved visiting Ilinskoe with its pastoral country life and wondered how Ella was happy with all that. Also she amused that Ella didn't touch French novels and read only English - she was afraid that French was too much frivolous.

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #98 on: May 19, 2011, 05:23:54 PM »
Somebody on this thread commented that Elizaveta and Serge were a strange couple. this echos my own feelings and from what we read, those of QV too!!! I would never seek to doubt her goodness and piety, she was undoubtedly a devout woman and a committed Christian but........might she have felt vulnerable as a widow in a louche society, and, having been subjected once to a marriage which may not have been what she hoped for, decided to permanently remove herself from the marriage "market" by taking herself into a convent where she would be safe from unwanted male interest. I'm not blaming her. I feel very strongly, that finding herself released from the type of marriage I believe she may have experienced,she wasn't about to risk another which may turn out to be similar.

surely she was not to be forced to marry again against her wishes!
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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #99 on: May 20, 2011, 12:35:38 PM »
I wonder what was her relationship with Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich & what was her reaction to his marriage with countess Brassova.

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2011, 02:25:56 AM »
I wonder what was her relationship with Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich & what was her reaction to his marriage with countess Brassova.

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I don't know about her reaction to his marriage (I am curious, too), but Michael was in good terms with aunt Ella, visited her several times in her monastery (during his sevice in Orel) whenever he came to Moscow visiting Natalia Wulfert.
Quite possible that having confidence in his aunt he spoke with her about his relationship with Natasha.
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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2011, 08:27:45 AM »
Most likely Ella would be sympathetic, but she could also have seen the bigger picture of what it could do to the dynasty.

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2011, 06:55:45 AM »
I hope this is the right place to put my question.
I have read, as alla of you, about Alix and Ella arguing about Rasputin in 1916; then they won't met never again, and in the memoirs of Maria Pavlovna i have read that, at least at the begininng, Ella refused to write to her sister, pointing out that "we don't have anuthing to say anymore" (i haven't the right quotation here, but you can find it in A lifelong Passion).
But we know she did care of her sister, at last - sending her coffee in ekaterinburg. But it was Maria who wrote her aunt to say her thank you.
So i'm wondering: did ella and alix effectively gave up their relationship, didn't they never talk (or write) each other again? didn't they "!make peace" anymore? did they die still arsh to the other one? Maybe it's a stupid question, but it's going up and down my hand since one month already...
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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2011, 02:39:11 PM »
I think as far as Rasputin was concerned, the subject was dead between the sisters. Although they did not "break" over it, and remained concerned and care about one another. The actions you mentioned were evidence enough on that. It was a pity that they never had an opportunity to put that subject to rest, which was something was possible had they lived long enough for that to happen. For example had Ella accepted Willy's safe passage out of Russia and George V had not slammed the door to asylum for Nicholas, Alix and their family. 

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Re: Ella's Relationship with other Romanov family members
« Reply #104 on: January 14, 2012, 10:00:45 AM »
What relationship if any, did Ella have with her nieces Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia?