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Russia's History vs. the West . . . Comparable?

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rskkiya:
Tsarfan
Should I bite you to communicate my rabid, evil, socialistic, ecologically concerned dogma to you, or ought I simply drone on and on and on and on?

rskkiya

Tsarfan:
I like the droning.  It drowns out that pesky conscience of mine.

Elisabeth:

--- Quote --- The more that I consider this, the more I find myself looking to a national understanding or collective/group comprehension of "THE LAW" as being somewhere at  the root of this question.
    Of course Tsarfan and Elizabeth have wandered far from me, and I can scarcely catch up...{pant pant...gasp}

Do prepare your rotten fruit to throw my way.
--- End quote ---


Far from throwing any fruit your way, Rskkiya, I'm on the verge of agreeing with you... except that I don't yet know enough about the differences between Russia and the West in this area to make a judgment one way or the other. Can you enlighten us? I think you brought this up once before.

rskkiya:
      Well I am no expert, but my perspective is this - under English 'common law' {a poor example, but it must suffice for the moment} the law was understood to control the behaviour and actions even of the most absolute monarchs, all were to be equal under the law- this was a concept understood by even the meanest serf, hence all the trouble my people had with various peasant revolts and in dealing with such Royal families like the "Stuarts"... (lol)

  {I am not a Cromwell fan, although I feel sure that my ancestors were most likely roundheads!}  :-X

    I don't think that a similar situation existed in Russia. I'm under the impression that in an autocratic system the tsar was able to create 'ad hoc' laws, but once again my knowledge of Tsarist law is very vague and I am no lawyer...

I may be wandering in Cloud Cuccoo Land about all of this.

rskkiya

Elisabeth:
I think you might be on to something here, Rskkiya. To develop your idea, it also occurs to me that in a country like Russia where the laws were so arbitrary and so arbitrarily unjust, for so many centuries, that people might have eventually reached the point where they regarded the law as something to get around, not to obey. In other words, the very laws themselves would encourage law-breaking, almost as a matter of daily survival. Remember that until the mid-19th century, most Russians were serfs, and had few legal protections.

Certainly I have read that a peculiarly Russian "lawlessness" arose in the Soviet period, since the government was viewed as the enemy by most of its people - dangerous and not to be trusted. After all, the Soviet economy only worked to the extent that its black market worked. Once the communist regime fell and the state withdrew from industry, the mafia culture quickly leapt in to fill the void.  

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