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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2006, 01:11:01 AM »
Count Freedericksz was present when Nicholas II signed his abdication at Mogilev. He was a Finnish citizen (his family owned a big Taubila manor in Finland, Pyhäjärvi in Karelia), and was allowed to move to Finland after the revolution. The family lived in Helsinki, Rahapajankatu 3. When the count begun to have illnesses of eldery, the family hired a house (Villa Lansen) in Kauniainen, where he could have health care at baths of Kauniainen. He was buried in Kauniainen, too, as a first dead person at the new graveyard. That was in 1927.

Quite a little of Count Freedericksz life is known in Finland. In 1960, the family portraits were sold in Finland in a little antique store in Helsinki. Maybe he had no family left here? He had at least two daughters, Eugenie and Emma, who were named as Court Ladies at the Russian court...

He was an interesting figure and it would be nice to know more about his life in Finland.

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2006, 12:30:37 PM »
Is it possible that he had a form Alzheimer's as he progressed in his older years? I recall reading somewhere that he was in the process of going to announce someone to the Tsar but forgot what he was doing and started to wander around the palace. I also remember reading in a book about Rasputin that he kept interrupting someone (I think Prince Orlov) during a dinner and asking him if he had shaved that day.
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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2006, 07:50:13 PM »
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Is it possible that he had a form Alzheimer's as he progressed in his older years? I recall reading somewhere that he was in the process of going to announce someone to the Tsar but forgot what he was doing and started to wander around the palace. I also remember reading in a book about Rasputin that he kept interrupting someone (I think Prince Orlov) during a dinner and asking him if he had shaved that day.

Poor Count Fredericks early in 1913 suffered a cerebral hemorrhage. This event caused periodic memory loss, followed by lethargy that could last anything from hours to a few days. Harshly there were critics who when seeing this incapacity prefered to suggest that he was no longer intellectually able to perform his duties. Of course this fallacious belief was not correct. It was very sad.

Emperor Nikolai II was unable to let him seek retirement because of his loyal impeccable service.
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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2006, 08:26:07 PM »
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Count Freedericksz was present when Nicholas II signed his abdication at Mogilev. He was a Finnish citizen (his family owned a big Taubila manor in Finland, Pyhäjärvi in Karelia), and was allowed to move to Finland after the revolution. The family lived in Helsinki, Rahapajankatu 3. When the count begun to have illnesses of eldery, the family hired a house (Villa Lansen) in Kauniainen, where he could have health care at baths of Kauniainen. He was buried in Kauniainen, too, as a first dead person at the new graveyard. That was in 1927.

Quite a little of Count Freedericksz life is known in Finland. In 1960, the family portraits were sold in Finland in a little antique store in Helsinki. Maybe he had no family left here? He had at least two daughters, Eugenie and Emma, who were named as Court Ladies at the Russian court...

He was an interesting figure and it would be nice to know more about his life in Finland.


Count Fredericks died on 5 July, 1927.

Apparently he remained for a few years in Soviet Russia. His wife, Countess Yadviga Alouizievna (nee Bogushevskaya); a Stats-dama died and was buried in Petrograd in 1919.

Count Fredericks was only permitted by the authorities to leave the soviet union for Finland not long before his own death.  

His daughter Evgeniya Vladimirovna died in 1950, while his second daughter Emma Vladimirovna (a freilina) died in 1945. Emma was married to General-Major Vladimir Nikolaevich Voeikov, the Palace Commandant.
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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2006, 04:08:09 PM »
I just scanned through the Rasputin book again today and the story was about a meeting between Prince Orlov and Count Freedericksz. Freedericksz countinually asked Orlov if he had been shaven that day. Orlov got so frustrated he summoned Freedericksz valet who said that he had been shaven that day. Unfortunately this did not solve the porblem because Freedericksz decided he needed a shave immediately and departed in his carriage. On the way, he fell asleep and the driver brought him back!

Poor man!

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2006, 09:23:17 AM »
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I received today a book "Before the Revolution St. Petersburg in Photographs 1890-1914" by Mikhail P.Iroshnikov, etc., Abrams, NY; Nauka Publishers,  Leningrad; 1991. On page 201 is a photograph of "... the mansion of Baron V. B. Fredericks. 23 Konnogvardeisky Lane. 1908..." From memoirs I had understood that Count Fredericks lived in an appartment of a building facing the Field of Mars. There are descriptions of meetings with him in his study and where he turns facing the window watching the guards parading. The Countess had wanted to move to the larger premises that were automatically assigned to his positon by the Imperial Court to have the ability to entertain more lavishly but the Count had replied that if/when he ever lost his position then they would not have to move again. His mansion was one of the first to be invaded at the beginning of the revolution and I read in Count Grabbe's book that he gave his appartment to the Fredericks' until they were able to leave through Finland. Does anyone know if this address 23 Konnogvardeisky Lane is facing the Field of Mars? And did the mansion survive?

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Hi Joanna!

Fascinating book isn’t it? The Horse Guards regiment occupied a whole area of downtown Petersburg in Admiralty Quarter, West of St. Isaac’s Cathedral, far from the Field of Mars.The manege was on Isaakievsky Square. Barracks were located behind it, between Horse-Guards Boulevard and  Novo-Isaakievskaya St. with the regimental church (Annunciation) at the end of these streets (Iroshnikov, p. 32). South of these buildings there was another building in U-shape with a large yard opening on Horse-Guards Lane between Novo-Isaakievskaya and Morskaya St (with Poshtamtskaya St. in the middle). In his memoirs Mossolov writes that “The Count's private residence was in the Potchtamtskaya, exactly opposite the Horse Guards' barracks. These barracks occupied an enormous area in the centre of the capital, with a drill ground surrounded on three sides by yellow and white buildings. »

Seems to me the Count’s house was on the corner of Potchtamtskaya and Horse Guards Lane. So he could have easily have looked into that yard which served as a drilling ground for his former regiment, as Mossolov recalls when describing his study : « The moment I entered the spacious room in which the Count had installed his desk, I saw that nothing had changed, nothing had been moved. The only new thing was a large picture on the wall-the parting present from the officers of the regiment he had commanded. It represented the drill ground that could be seen from his windows, and his regiment deployed in parade formation, with shining helmets and breastplates; in the foreground was Count Freedericksz, on foot, talking to his officers. »  So he didn’t watch the whole Guards parading from his window (which they did on the Fiekd of Mars until March 1905) but only his beloved Horse Guards regiment.

The barracks and the beautiful neo-classical Manege built by Quarenghi (where the annual review of the Horse Guards was held on their regimental holiday (March 25, Annunciation) have survived. The regimental church didn’t has it was destroyed by the Communists in the 1930s (as most probably was the regimental standard which had been hidden in the church after the Revolution). As for the Count’s mansion, Mossolov writes that « his house was to be the first to be destroyed on the morrow of the revolution, » It was burnt down if I recall correctly. I didn’t check what was at this address last time I was in Petersburg so I have no idea if the building survived or not.

Hope this helps!


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Just don't forget that there are Konnogvardeyskiy Boulevard and Konnogvardeyskiy Lane, perpendicular each to other. "Our" building is at the Lane, No. 8 (23 at Pochtamtskaya St.).

I just got the book St Petersburg: Portrait of an Imperial City.  In it is the following photo mistakenly identified as “Stonebreakers near Senate Square”.  By comparing the photo of Baron Freedericks house and this one, I think this photograph is of the Horse Guards open yard along Konnogvardeisky Lane.  When I first saw the picture of Baron Frederick's house, I had assumed the horse statues surrounded his home.  From the new photo, you can see that they actually are gates to the Horse Guards Courtyard and they and the trees define the courtyard.  It is in this courtyard that I'm sure the Guards did the parading that Frederick's would watch from his window.  Baron Frederick's house can be seen on the right side of the photo.  The building at the end of the courtyard is the wing of the Horse Guards Barracks along what my maps call Yakubovicha Street.

This give me a better understanding of what the area was like.  Hope you find it interesting also.

Baron Fredericks House


House Guards Courtyard

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2006, 11:36:34 AM »
Great pictures Bob! The mansion looks much more impressive than a hostel for post-office workers built in the 1930s on the same plot. The horse statues of Castor and Pollux are now standing in front of the Horse Guard Manege, where they originally belonged.

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2007, 05:06:59 PM »
Mossolov "At the Court of the Last Tsar"

[Count Freedericksz was descended from a Swedish officer who had been taken prisoner by Russian troops and interned at Archangel. -One of his ancestors had won distinction as banker to Catherine II, and had been ennobled with the title of Baron. The Count's father, a soldier, went through many campaigns: he was present at the capture of Paris, and was for a long time Officer Commanding the 13th Regiment at Erivan, in the Caucasus, at the beginning of the nineteenth century. He ended his career as General A.D.C. to Alexander II.

Freedericksz-then Baron Vladimir Borisovitch Freedericksz-began his career as an officer in the Horse Guards. Alexander III appointed him first Master of the Horse and later assistant to the Minister of the Court. The Minister was then Count Vorontzov. After the disaster at Hodynka Count Vorontzov sent in his resignation: he had been charged with making insufficient provision for the public safety. The Tsar considered the Minister entirely free from responsibility for the disaster, and asked him to remain at his post.

But Vorontzov made one great mistake. He had known Nicholas II since he was a baby, and took up a protective attitude towards him, the attitude, as it were, of an older relation. Nicholas himself regarded this as entirely natural; but the young Empress did not. She could not permit a Count Vorontzov to be on familiar terms with her husband. One day, when nothing could have been farther from the Count's mind, he was notified that his resignation, which had 'so often been offered to His Majesty', was accepted; later on he was sent as Viceroy to the Caucasus.

Freedericksz took his brother officer's place, at first as Acting Minister and afterwards as Minister. The appointment created a great sensation at the Court. Freedericksz did not belong to the highest ranks of the nobility, and none of his family had ever been in close association with the Throne, except his father, as General A.D.C. It was plain that the Tsar had known how to appreciate his simplicity, his tact, and his unsullied integrity. Freedericksz retained his post until the final catastrophe.

Count Freedericksz (he had received the title of Count from Nicholas II) was very rich, and that gave him the sense of independence that was so necessary amid the intrigues and the raging appetites that surrounded him.

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2007, 02:58:22 PM »
I was curious, did the count's wife go by Alexandra in Russia? I've always thought her name was Yadviga until I read The Court of the Last Tsar.

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2008, 08:11:29 PM »
I believe these are views looking straight at Count Fredericks house on the left corner:
http://photoarchive.spb.ru:9090/www/showObject.do?object=2500805602
http://photoarchive.spb.ru:9090/www/showObject.do?object=2500805690

Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2008, 09:53:22 PM »
He was a Finnish citizen (his family owned a big Taubila manor in Finland, Pyhäjärvi in Karelia), and was allowed to move to Finland after the revolution. The family lived in Helsinki, Rahapajankatu 3.

Katia, Is this the Taubila estate in Pyhäjärvi owned by Count Fredericks?
http://www.sipoonkanoottiklubi.net/vanavesi/images/karj0212.jpg

And a photograph of Rahapajankatu 3:
http://www.korttelit.fi/rakennus.php/id/1263

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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2008, 12:45:21 AM »
Here are some photographs of Baron Fredericks.











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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2008, 01:56:46 PM »
An excerpt from 'The Blue Steppes - Adventures Among Russians' by Gerard Shelley of his visit to Count Fredericks house on Konnogvardeysky Per in 1915:

THE BLUE STEPPES - ADVENTURES AMONG RUSSIANS
BY GERARD SHELLEY, LONDON , 19??
Chapter VII

THE HOUSE IN THE HORSEGUARDS' ALLEY

BY THOSE MYSTERIOUS HANDS that weave our fortunes I was fated to enter
the house in the Horseguards' Alley in Petrograd. It had nothing unusual in its outward
look except a large square window overhanging the carriage archway. That, in itself, was nothing startling. It merely jutted out like a large glass eye in the flat surface of the long line of unpre- tentious mansions. As one turned the corner of the Horseguards' Avenue and looked down the alley, it winked at one with the gleam of daylight in its broad panes…When I first saw it, in 191 5, grinning at me with its hideous row of white teeth and red gums, it wore a white ruffle and a yellow satin jacket adorned with a black coronet. It was swinging on the golden ring, its lower anatomy looking like a blue balloon. Next time I passed the window I was surprised to see the monkey in a
red frill and a green satin jacket with a red coronet. Moreover, it was seated on the shoulder of an extremely beautiful woman, fondling her white neck and playing with the rich, dark tresses that hung loose down her back. It was already mid-day, but the beautiful woman was still clad in a yellow, bird-embroidered kimono, having evidently just come out of her morning bath. Late-rising was a common habit among the ladies of Petrograd owing to their fondness for night life. I found the woman so royally beautiful — she seemed to have stepped out of a Rubens picture — that the house which I had first
distinguished as the house with the winking window, and then the house with the grinning monkey, became at last the house with the Rubens beauty. I wanted to know more about her.


Luckily it did not take me long to find out. Her next-door neighbour was Count Fredericks, the aged, affable Minister of the Imperial Court. He was interested in some translations I had made from Pushkin, Lermontov, and other Russian
poets, and had invited me to lunch. We were just a few at table, including M. Derfeiden, a
young officer whose sister danced at the palace of Prince Yusoopov on the night of Rasputin's murder, and Count Kleinmichel, a man I had known in Kharkov.

In his rather sombre dining-room, with its dull pictures of still life on the panelled walls and an old English clock whose crazy chimes went off every ten minutes, Count Fredericks entertained his guests with tasty riabchiks and still tastier talk about the Court. He was a man of the old school (his delightfully undulous moustaches advertised the fact) and strongly disapproved of the mysticism that had invaded the Imperial family. Intensely German in feelings and outlook, he detested the presence of Rasputin at the Court, though his stern sense of duty and honour forbade him to give credence to the lurid tales which were everywhere in circulation. He confined himself to the ordinary small talk of the Court camarilla, relating trivial, harmless incidents about Madame Vyroubova and the Empress's ladies-in-waiting, their mutual antagonisms and feline
sallies, about Rasputin's prophecies and visions, and what certain irate grand dukes had sworn to do in order to get rid of the pious peasant.

In the midst of such a stream of interesting talk, it was no easy task for me to lead up to the subject of the beautiful neighbour. It was not until the conversation had veered round to the gruesome subject of Princess Dolgorouki's skeleton that I found the chance good for a general discussion of the drawing-room hobbies of the Russian aristocracy. I remembered entering the drawing-room of Princess Dolgorouki's house on the
English Quay and being startled by a human skeleton standing up stark and ghastly just behind the gilt screen by the door. It was the first thing that struck one's gaze before one advanced to greet its beautiful and gifted owner.

Count Fredericks, though bordering on the eighties, could still twinkle a merry eye, carry
his wine like a soldier, and turn a tale with the art of a past-master. A few days previously, it appeared, he had assisted the Emperor in distributing some war medals for deeds of valour. There had been a great concourse of drums and trumpets and several staff officers, heady with pride of position and the cut of their trousers, had received the Cross of St. George. Among them was a young Count Elston, whose elegance
and arrogance matched his careful avoidance of danger in the trenches and his contempt for all risks on the matrimonial front. He had already, at the age of twenty-five, cheated three fellow-officers of their wives and married them one after the other. As the law permitted no more than three divorces, he was now obliged to win laurels on the military front instead of winning other men's wives, a practice that was almost universal
amongst the educated classes of Russia. So he applied in the usual indirect manner through an uncle for the medal of St. George. Having got it, he asked for leave to return to Petrograd so that he might display his new glory. On the night of his arrival, he went to a large party given at Princess Dolgorouki's house. His pride and arrogance knew no bounds. His loud voice and jingling spurs kept everyone aware of him. During the evening he had occasion to go out to the cloakroom. His jingling spurs were heard retreating down the corridor. Suddenly a terrible shriek rent the atmosphere. Footmen and visitors rushed forward and discovered the haughty count lying white and prostrate on the floor. Before him stood the open door of a cupboard, in the dark hole of which shone the white skeleton of a man.

They brought him to with a Httle cold water. It was then explained that Princess Dolgorouki had decided to do away with the skeleton as an ornament of her drawing-room and had stowed it away in the cupboard near the cloakroom. The valorous count, wearing his shining new order, had opened the wrong door by mistake.

When Count Fredericks had finished relating this story, I found it opportune to ask who was the beautiful neighbour whose chief window adornment seemed to be a grinning monkey.

Count Fredericks burst into a merry chuckle. An old man's chuckle has the flavour of old
vintage. He lifted both his hands and drew out his long moustaches with gentle caressings.

To be cont'd ...


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Re: Count Wladimir Freedericksz (1838-1927)
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2008, 02:00:46 PM »
Cont'd ...

" Here's a fine young fellow ! " he exclaimed. " One eye on the poets and the other on the
beauties of the natural creation. Taste . . . exquisite, as you see, gentlemen. When I was
young and handsome, I was just as keen. And if in those days I had seen such a beauty as one sees every morning in the overhanging window next door, fondling that monstrous monkey, I should have known my career. Well, Fm not too old to take an interest in her even now. One can't live long next door to a monkey and a beauty without wanting to know a litde of their history. I can tell you, gentlemen, that I soon took steps to find out."

*' Who is she ? " the men asked eagerly. " A demi-mondaine ? "

Count Fredericks held up his hands and waved them downwards as though to allay such unsetding thoughts.

" By no means ! " he declared. " A most respectable woman, daughter of a merchant,
honorary citizen of the town of St. Petersburg. (He always spoke of the town by its historic name.) She was married at nineteen to a penniless man in the Foreign Office, divorced him a few years later and took up nursing w^hen the war broke out.
Then she made the acquaintance of Vadimsky, the proprietor of the Petrograd Chronicle, who was on his last legs with consumption. She nursed him devotedly till he died after making her his wife and leavino- her a tremendous fortune. His newspaper sold like hot cakes since the outbreak of w^ar. Since his death she still runs the hospital for wounded soldiers which he had opened on the top floor of the house and where she first entered his life as a war-nurse. He died about three months ago. About a month later she installed the monkey and by w^ay of consolation sews new coats and frills for it every day. But
there are other developments on the way. Now that she has inherited the Vadimsky fortune, she has a host of suitors, some of them with coronets. She turns them all away with a weary sigh and embroiders a new coronet on the monkey's coat for each noble offer she declines."

*' Is she satisfied with her bourgeois station ? " Count Kleinmichel asked.

Count Fredericks chuckled in the manner familiar to those who knew him. He never looked upon courtly gravity as being anything more than a part of court dress. He always seemed to thank God for laughter.

*' Is any woman satisfied with her station ? " he asked. " Was Eve ? We can wait and watch. It isn't because there's no apple on the tree. In fact there are too many. But most of them are far too small. Madame Vadimsky declares she will only marry for love. Very well ! a lovely ideal ! But some people say the Grand Duke S has set his eye at the lovely idealist. Marriage would be rather a difficulty. The Grand Duke would have to live abroad if he married her. Gossips hint that the Grand Duke has too much ambition at home to risk life with love abroad. But, as I said before, Madame Vadimsky is a most respectable woman. She is testing the depth of the Grand Duke's love before she comes
to a decision."

The full text which includes interesting chapters on Rasputin and the author's radical view of the man for that time:
http://www.archive.org/details/bluesteppesadven00sheluoft

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