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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2006, 09:09:50 AM »
Can anyone post pics of Charles II's illegitimate children? I just want to know if any of them resembled the Stuarts. Thanks!

Here's the Duke of Monmouth:



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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2006, 09:10:17 AM »
One more of the Duke:

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2006, 09:13:42 AM »
Charlotte Fitzroy (1664-1717), later Countess of Lichfield, Barbara Palmer's daughter:

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2006, 09:24:38 AM »
Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Grafton (1663-1690), Barbara Palmer's son:



Charles Lennox, Duke of Richmond (1672-1723), Louise de Kerouaille's son:

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2006, 09:26:11 AM »
Charles Fitzroy, Duke of Southampton and Cleveland (1662-1730) with his mother Barbara Palmer.



Charles Beauclerk, Duke of St Albans (1670-1726), Nell Gwyn's son:

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2006, 09:33:52 AM »
James Fitzjames, Duke of Berwick (1670-1734), son of James II and Arabella Churchill:

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2006, 09:37:22 AM »
Does anyone know if Charles II's illegitimate children had much interaction with each other - were they close, before and after their father's death?
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2006, 10:41:57 AM »
It's my understanding that Charles II's illegitimate children were not a close-knit group, probably because their mothers were rivals.  Very little has been written about any of them besides Monmouth.   Most of Charles II's biographers think the children were a pretty poor lot.

Perhaps because of the execution of Monmouth, it seems that all of Charles's children sided with William of Orange against James II.  The Duke of Grafton was one of the first to desert James for William, and later died at the battle of the Boyne.  

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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2006, 01:06:03 PM »
Thanks very much Palatine.  :)
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« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2006, 01:24:11 AM »
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As the Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus!  :o
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2006, 04:37:08 AM »
Lady Castlemaine as a virgin?  :o :o ;D ;D

I was wondering if there was any evidence of Charles II being close to any of his daughters. It's often said that Monmouth was his favourite, because he was the eldest, but Charlotte Jemima Henrietta Maria Fitzroy (born 1650) was his eldest daughter. I wonder if Charles saw her much? Notice his mother's name in the middle there! ;)
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2006, 05:10:43 AM »
Judging by these portraits, these were a good looking bunch of bastards weren't they.
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2006, 05:23:41 AM »
Especially Monmouth and the lovely blond portrait of Charlotte Fitzroy.  :)
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2006, 08:33:59 AM »
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Lady Castlemaine as a virgin?  :o :o ;D ;D

I was wondering if there was any evidence of Charles II being close to any of his daughters. It's often said that Monmouth was his favourite, because he was the eldest, but Charlotte Jemima Henrietta Maria Fitzroy (born 1650) was his eldest daughter. I wonder if Charles saw her much? Notice his mother's name in the middle there! ;)


Whoopsee, I can answer my own question - I bought 'King Charles II' by Antonia Fraser today, and in it there's the picture of Charlotte Fitzroy (Lady Castlemaine's daughter) and it says she was Charles' favourite daughter. It also says that Charles Fitzcharles, Earl of Plymouth (son of Catherine Pegge) died at Tangier. ???  I'll let you guys know if it mentions anything else about Charles' children! :D
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Re: Stuart Bastards
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2006, 02:12:59 PM »
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Lady Castlemaine as a virgin?  :o :o ;D ;D

I was wondering if there was any evidence of Charles II being close to any of his daughters. It's often said that Monmouth was his favourite, because he was the eldest, but Charlotte Jemima Henrietta Maria Fitzroy (born 1650) was his eldest daughter. I wonder if Charles saw her much? Notice his mother's name in the middle there! ;)


plus, she appears to be pregnant--certainly a bit thick about the waist--one of Charles II's little jokes? ::)
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