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Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« on: June 03, 2005, 09:00:16 PM »
Does anyone know if the Grand Duchess Leonida, wife of Grand Duke Vladimir (son of Kyril and Ducky), is still living? If not, where is she buried? Also, I know that her first husband, an American by the name of Mr. Kirby, died in a concentration camp during WWII. What were the circumstances surrounding this? Did she have children by her first marriage and if so, what became of them?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2005, 02:23:54 AM »
GDss Leonida is still living.She has a daughter, Helen,by her 1st husband Sumner Moore Kirby.

Mr.Kirby was arrested by Nazis as an American citizen and he died in a concentration camp.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2005, 03:43:57 PM »
Goodness!  Why was he arrested? ???  

Btw, Svetabel, who is that in your avatar?  I've been wondering for a while. ;D

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2005, 04:15:43 AM »
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Goodness!  Why was he arrested? ???  

Btw, Svetabel, who is that in your avatar?  I've been wondering for a while. ;D


He was arrested becouse he was an American - it was enough for Nazis.

As for my avatar - it's Baby Bee aka Princess Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg, younger sister of Queen Marie of Romania. :)
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 09:47:15 PM »
Oh okay! Thanks. :)

That's terrible about the American.  I didn't know the Nazis put Americans in concentration camps just for the fact that they were Americans. :P

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 11:13:30 PM »
Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia with His Holiness Alexei II, Patriarch of Moscow and all of Russia.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2005, 02:10:01 AM »
IMO, she doesn't look like royalty at all.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2005, 02:30:11 AM »
Thank you again, David. Pictures of HIH the Grand Duchess are rare, at least it seems that way. I know she shows up in some of the Orthodox magazines, but she is just not a "Majesty" royal I guess.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 05:47:41 AM »
Is she charismatic? Her son, who is also a bit...let's say, pudgy, doesn't seem too charismatic. Isn't he doing the military in Russia or something? Does anyone have any information on him as well as his mother, and also on his father, former Prussian Prince Michael Pavlovich....? I've heard he went back to his original name and title after their divorce, but he even changed religion to marry Maria... can anyone forward any more info please? Is she fluent in Russian? I know she must be fluent in Spanish since she' always lived (born) in Spain.... what about George?  By the bye, does she still live here in Spain? More pics?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 01:39:59 PM »
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IMO, she doesn't look like royalty at all.


Well Dianoshka, my first response to your comment is, how many royals do you know?

I found the Grand Duchess to have quite a commanding presence.

Her English is very formal and percise rather like that of Queen Elizabeth. I do know that the Grand Duchess speaks English, French, Portuguese, Russian and Spanish.

Her son Grand Duke George is now working in Brussels in the field of economics.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2005, 01:50:47 PM »
It would be nice to have a recent picture of the Grand Duke posted as well. I notice that Arturo's ERHJ has a black & white one in the latest issue.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2005, 01:55:11 PM »
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IMO, she doesn't look like royalty at all.


And just what is royaity supposed to look like????

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2005, 04:48:37 PM »
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Well Dianoshka, my first response to your comment is, how many royals do you know?

I found the Grand Duchess to have quite a commanding presence.

Her English is very formal and percise rather like that of Queen Elizabeth. I do know that the Grand Duchess speaks English, French, Portuguese, Russian and Spanish.

Her son Grand Duke George is now working in Brussels in the field of economics.

DAP


No, I've never met her, but IMO, based on the two pictures shown here, she doesn't look very regal. I was referring to her choice of clothing.



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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2005, 04:54:29 PM »
I was quite surprized that the dress in the second photograph became so vibrant. It must have been the flash on the camera because it was not so lively in person. The bright flash made her face rather pale, this is not how she looks in person. She does after all live in sunny Madrid.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2005, 07:08:18 PM »
the Grand Duchess doesn't look like a Romanov girl, She got her Mother's looks.

I have seen pics of the Grand Duchess when she married her x-husband. she's pretty, but not as pretty as the other Romanov women (like Tatiana, Irina, Elena, etc..)

Not to be mean But...
Her dress looks like it from the 70s. She wearing two MUCH eye makeup.