Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna

[Carolath Habsburg]

You reckon?

[Eric_Lowe]

Thanks ! Got one of father Kirby ?

[NickNicholsonNYC]

Interestingly the Guisando 17 address in Madrid has been the family address for over 40 years.  GDKW and GDLG lived there as well.  It is still GDMW's published address.

[NickNicholsonNYC]

Sumner Moore Kirby

[Eric_Lowe]

The rich American guy Leonida married and father of Helen Kirby.

[NickNicholsonNYC]

That's him.  Also, an interesting picture of the "Countess Dvinskaya" (At Left.  She now goes by her maiden name of Dona Elena Kirby de Bagrationi) in Madrid at a reception held by the Royal Family of Georgia to distribute honors.



You can read all about it (in Spanish) here: http://docelinajes.blogspot.com/2013/07/imposicion-de-condecoraciones-de-la.html?spref=fb&m=1

[THERRY]

my scan from an old magazine

[THERRY]

[bongo]

The Guisando 17 address appears as a demolished vacant lot on Google Streetview. So they must have moved.

(Interestingly, the tiny brick house in Ontario that Grand Duchess Olga and husband moved to after quitting the farm still exists and can be seen on Streetview.)

[Превед]

According to an article in The Moscow Times, Georgiy Mikhailovich has just resigned from his Norilsk Nickel job. He is...
" working on creating a public affairs and communications platform in Brussels, called Romanoff & Partners, which will specialize on advancing the corporate and public interests of businesses throughout the EU, not only those in Russia or Eastern Europe, bridging my life experiences in my adopted country with those in my true homeland, Russia — much in the way that Peter the Great bridged the gap between East and West in his own time."

[wetz07]

Does anyone know if the Grand Duchess Leonida, wife of Grand Duke Vladimir (son of Cyril and Ducky), is still living? If not, where is she buried? Also, I know that her first husband, an American by the name of Mr. Kirby, died in a concentration camp during WWII. What were the circumstances surrounding this? Did she have children by her first marriage and if so, what became of them? I don't know if this question was answered by Princess Leonida Romanov, née Bagration passed away few years ago. I don't share the opinion of considering her a royal, even nobody knows if her marriage was under the Orthodox Church valid. Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich married as everybody knows the ex wife Victoria Melita of Saxe Coburg from Ernest Ludwig Gross Herzog von Hesse Darmstand und bei Rhein, the Empress' brother. The couple were for a time forbidden to return to Russia. Ducky was a first cousin from her husband, through her mother Grand Duchess Maria Aleksandrovna, sister of Grand Duke Vladimir Aleksandrovich, according with the Orthodox Church this was not allow, unless an exception was accepted, which wasn't the case. Who convinced Tsar Nicholas II to let them return to Russia was Kirill's mother Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the elder. The behaviour of Grand Duke Kirill was horrendous, especially during the revolution. When his cousin was still the Emperor he joined forces with Kerensky and the Duma and ordered his regiment to wave red flags instead of the Imperial one. He betrayed his cousin the Tsar and he betrayed his other cousin Grand Duke Mikhail Aleksandovich, who was the direct Heir to the Throne, considering that Nicholas II abdicated for him and for his son. Kirill urged the Duma to forced a new abdication this time from Mischa. Mikhail Aleksandrovich was living in an apartment at Millonaia street behind the Winter Palace and he was threatened by the Duma to be send to prison if he didn't abdicate. his wife countess Brasova was horrified, the same day she saw how a good friend of Mischa Prince Volkonsky was murdered by the troops. The entire imperial family starting by the Dowager Empress rejected any claim to the throne by Kirill even one of his brothers was completely against him. Not a single Grand Duke or Imperial Prince who had survive the massacred recognized him as "Tsar". Funny for Vladimir Putin the former KGB colonel and Russian tyrant his grandson Hohenzollern is the "heir", which is completely absurd. My parents were friends from Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna the younger who lived in Buenos Aires at a beautiful but tiny apartment near Recoleta, Maria Pavlovna hated Kirill like her brother Dmitri Pavlovich both considered him a traitor. Princess Ekaterina Ioannovna of Russia who lived in Buenos Aires and afterwards she moved to Montevideo with the entire Konstantinovichi branch condemned every try of Kirill first, his son Vladimir second and Maria now to be "Russian emperor or empress". They aren't and they don't deserve it.

[Eric_Lowe]

Lets just say that this branch of the family wasn't universally liked due to many reasons.

[Превед]

Georgiy Mikhailovich's new firm: http://www.romanoffpartners.com/

His services in "bridging the gap between Russia and Europe" should be more needed than since the Cold War.

[Eric_Lowe]

is he capable of that though ?

[Превед]

is he capable of that though ?

Yes, sounds a bit grandiose, doesn't it, especially the reference to Peter the Great!