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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2005, 09:35:39 PM »
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I'm afraid that book is wrong ;). The Shakesperean name is definately Titania, I don't think many Roman men called Tatian would have had such a name if it meant fairy queen!


It's possible that Tatiana and Titania come from the same root. Also, which language is it supposed to be 'faerie queen' in? That might have made a difference. Here's an interesting example...'Charles', from Old French, means 'manly'. 'Charlotte', from the same Old French root, means 'feminine'. A change of gender can do a surprising amount to the meaning of a name.

Off to do more research...;D

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2005, 09:39:36 PM »
Maybe, but weren't the Titans giants - so Titania would naturally have some 'supernatural' connotation. I have never heard of Tatins however!

I did a little research in Latin-English dictionaries, and name etymology sites, and it seems Tatiana comes from the masculine form Tatian, which derives from Tatius, the meaning of which is unknown.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2005, 10:30:36 PM »
You are probably right, it is probably wrong...I'm checking to see if it is also Roman, it is possible it's not... :-/...I'm check8ing the book (on which I got the title wrong. It's "3,000baby names: find the perfect name for your new baby" oops...) and Tatiana is Slavic.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2005, 11:04:15 PM »
Well, it is a common Slavic name, but it entered the Slavic lands through the Church, due to the popular veneration of St Tatiana, a Roman woman who was martyred. There will be versions of the name in all Orthodox countries, but I think it is most popular in the Slavic countries.

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2005, 11:56:46 AM »
I have a friend who is of Ukrainian descent whose name is Tianne. I assume this is a derivation of Tatiana, though I have never heard Tatiana Nicholaevna refered to as Tianne. I have heard her called Tanya, of course, and Tatia as well.

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2005, 07:19:32 PM »
The name "Tatiana" existed in Russia before the 1830's, but was a peasant name.  It was immediately after Pushkin published Yevgeny Onegin (1833) that the name took off in widespread popularity.  I think it's pretty interesting that even the Tsar and Tsaritsa chose a name that hadn't existed among the gentry & royalty for very long.  (Most Romanov given names are very traditional.)

I think the popularity of "Tatiana" can be explained by its elegance/beauty and also because the character Tatiana in Onegin is considered the ideal Russian woman--generous, faithful, considerate, and sincere.

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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2005, 05:39:37 PM »
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The name "Tatiana" existed in Russia before the 1830's, but was a peasant name.  It was immediately after Pushkin published Yevgeny Onegin (1833) that the name took off in widespread popularity.  I think it's pretty interesting that even the Tsar and Tsaritsa chose a name that hadn't existed among the gentry & royalty for very long.  (Most Romanov given names are very traditional.)
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The name "Tatiana" had already be done to a member of the imperial family, .. the name of Konstantin konstantinovich's only daughter was tatiana

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2005, 09:42:28 PM »
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You are probably right, it is probably wrong...I'm checking to see if it is also Roman, it is possible it's not... :-/...I'm check8ing the book (on which I got the title wrong. It's "3,000baby names: find the perfect name for your new baby" oops...) and Tatiana is Slavic.


Tatiana is the feminine form of the Roman name Tatianus, which is from the Roman form Tatius, which is of unknown meaning. So you were correct that it is Roman as well as Slavic.

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2005, 10:53:35 AM »
It is a lovely name, and it well suited her. I have always heard and believed that it was because of Pushkin's Eugene Onegin, that she had that name. But I never heard the part where Olga had her name too because of that. I always thought Olga had her name because it was a family name. My favorite Romanov name is Tatiana, and it was one of my favorite Russian names. The english version isn't half as lovely as the Russian.

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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2005, 12:12:54 PM »
I fully agree with Romanov_Fan--whatever the origin of her name, Tatiana is a gorgeous, feminine, almost ethereal name (you could easily believe it WAS the name of a fairy queen--or princess!!)--and certainly it suited Grand Duchess Tatiana, who was a girl of the most delicate, exquisite beauty. Grand Duchess Tatiana was one of the few royals in history (along with her beautiful sisters) to actually look like we expect real-life princesses to look--regal, graceful, exquisite, and with a truly haunting beauty. It's extremely interesting that Nicholas and Alexandra named their first two daughters after characters from Pushkin's play, I hadn't known that--I always figured that Olga was named for her father's younger sister, but I guess you can have more than one inspiration!!  :)
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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2005, 09:25:12 PM »
Yes, Tatiana is a lovely name, and the grand duchess was one of the only Romanovs to bear it, unfortunatly. It is my favorite Russian female name, but I mistyped ''was''. I love the name, and would contemplate giving any future daughter I might have that name, but I am not Russian, and the name is never used in America.  :(I might still give her that name though, or may give it as a middle name.

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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2005, 01:06:31 PM »
Hi,

My name is Tanya.  For many years I would look in baby books for my name.  I didn't (and still don't) often find it.  When I would, it usually said "meaning unknown."  "Short form of Tatiana" and "of Slavic origin" were always in the notation.  Recently is when I have found the notations that it means "Faerie Queen."  Of course being a rather mystical pixie myself I like this idea.  But I will assure you that I have seen it more than one place.  Although it is very possible that it has been confused for Titania in Shakespeare.  Happens often.

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2005, 01:26:18 PM »
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Yes, Tatiana is a lovely name, and the grand duchess was one of the only Romanovs to bear it, unfortunatly. It is my favorite Russian female name, but I mistyped ''was''. I love the name, and would contemplate giving any future daughter I might have that name, but I am not Russian, and the name is never used in America.  :(I might still give her that name though, or may give it as a middle name.


Actually, romanov_fan, I have a friend from America who's name is Tatiana. Also, on recent visits, I have met two other Tatiana's as well. It would be a beautiful first name if you ever had a daughter ;)

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2005, 08:56:10 AM »
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Hi,

My name is Tanya.  For many years I would look in baby books for my name.  I didn't (and still don't) often find it.  When I would, it usually said "meaning unknown."  "Short form of Tatiana" and "of Slavic origin" were always in the notation.  Recently is when I have found the notations that it means "Faerie Queen."  Of course being a rather mystical pixie myself I like this idea.  But I will assure you that I have seen it more than one place.  Although it is very possible that it has been confused for Titania in Shakespeare.  Happens often.

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Wherever you look, no meaning of the name Tatiana can be found, and it certainly does not mean Faerie queen.

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2005, 10:05:32 AM »
I am glad to know that the name Tatiana is known in America. It is such a lovely name.  ;)