Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children

[Princess Susan]

The boy must be definitely Carlo. It is a pity, that he died of poliomyelitis when he was only 7.

I wonder why except Alice nobody of Elias and Maria Anna's children was married.
Does anybody have any idea?

[britt.25]

Thank you for the comment. I also think this is Carlo, even when he looks to me rather younger than his sister Maria Franziska.
Yes, the question was already asked... Until now nobody knows, why they did not marry,  even when they become quite old. I have seen that Maria Christine still lives. Could be interesting to write to her

[trentk80]

I remember reading that Alfonso, Duke of Calabria, was originally supposed to marry one of Alice's elder sisters (I don't remember which one though) but, when he met Alice, he liked her so much that he decided to marry her instead of her sister.

[Eric VdV]

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Marie (?) Still have to look, which of the daughters it is...



Ok, she looks a bit strange here and sits in a wheelchair....but well...she's old here...so I don't know, if she was handicapped or if it was just because of her age or anything....
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I remember this picture taken at the wedding of Princess Cristina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies on 15 July 1994 and the person at that time was idenfied as a sister of Princess Alice, paternal grandmother of the bride. This photo is part of the family posing picture. So it must be the youngest sister Princess Maria Christina of Bourbon-Parma, as Princess Maria Francesca has died a few months before, on 20 Februay 1994.

Eric VdV

[britt.25]

Don't you think this is Maria Francesca? All the others died before apart from Marie Christine and that's definetely not her. I think this must be Maria Francesca...not true? Or is this a completely other family member? Strange!

Do you know, where the full picture is to see, where this was taken as part out of it?

[Eric VdV]

Here is the full picture from the wedding of Princess Cristina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, taken on 15 July 1994. Now I see Princess Maria Cristina is also in it, cut out of this picture and posted in some of the previous messages: she is wearing blue, standing at the right of Queen Sofia of Spain.
The caption is clear, mentioning both Princess Françoise (sic) and Princess Christine (sic) of Bourbon-Parma.

Most of the guests are easy to recognise, so it must be the sisters of Princess Alice.



Next to right: couple (must be the parents of the groom); Countess of Paris (maternal grandmother of the bride); Queen Sofia of Spain; Princess Maria Cristina of Bourbon-Parma; groom and bride; Infante Alice, née Princess of Bourbon-Parma (paternal grandmother of the bride); King Juan Carlos of Spain with in front of him Princess Maria Francesca of Bourbon-Parma in wheel chair; Princess Anne and Infante Carlo (parents of the bride); two girls (probably sisters of the groom)
Behind Queen Sofia of Spain: her daughters Infanta Elena of Spain and Infanta Cristina of Spain; Prince Pedro of Bourbon-Two Sicilies; Princess Victoria of Bourbon-TS; Princess Inès of Bourbon-TS; Infante Felipe of Spain; Princess Maria of Bourbon-TS; hidden lady behind King Juan Carlos.

I am confused now, as the sources ("Le Petit Gotha"; "Online Gotha of Paul Theroff") I've found, give all as death date for Princess Maria Francesca 20 February 1994, so almost five months before this actual wedding. The other sisters died before her, as the last one before her was Princess Elisabetta, who died in 1983.

Eric VdV

[beladona]

...In 1873, Enrico married Luisa di Borbone delle Due Sicilie who died 9 months later in Pau (France) where was installed an hospital for carlist soldiers...

REMI, don´t you know if Enricos first wife Luisa di Borbone delle Due Sicilie died in childbirth? (these 9 months later...)

[REMI]

...In 1873, Enrico married Luisa di Borbone delle Due Sicilie who died 9 months later in Pau (France) where was installed an hospital for carlist soldiers...

REMI, don´t you know if Enricos first wife Luisa di Borbone delle Due Sicilie died in childbirth? (these 9 months later...)

What I can say is that the first countess of Bardi died of tuberculosis in Pau (France), a disease prevalent at that time which affected all the classes of society.To my knowledge, no historian has talked about "death in childbirth". Luisa was very pretty.

REMI

[beladona]

Yes, Luisa was pretty, like her sisters.
She died of tuberculosis? Only three years after her elder sister Maria Annunciata (married to Archduke Karl Ludwig), who died of tuberculosis too? Terrible disease...

[MarieCharlotte]

I have to confess that I haven't seen pictures of Maria Luisa as an adult yet. Even the photo archives in Vienna don't have pictures of her!

Here I have some pictures of Maria Luisa as a child:



Maria Immaculata, Maria Pia, Maria Luisa, Marie in Bavaria, Maria Annunziata



Maria Luisa (in the front) with her sisters

In my opinion Ferdinando II.'s daughters looked absolutely different. Maria Annunziata was tall, thin, had a nice face, but chiselled features like her bige nose. Maria Immaculata was quite small (her nickname was "Petite") and considered to be a real beauty - although she had a child-like face and was far from being beautiful in her early twenties. Maria Pia became quite fat (maybe because of her 12 pregnancies) and had a plain, meaningless face. Since I haven't seen pictures of Maria Luisa as an adult, I can't see what she looked like. Maybe she resembled her sister Maria Immaculata? As a child she looked really cute and that's why I can't imagine that she became ugly just like Maria Pia.

[REMI]

In november 1873, Luisa married Count of Bardi at her brother's in Cannes (France). She followed his husband to the spanish border, in Pau (France). In Spain, Bardi fought in the army of his brother-in-law, don Carlos, while her wife Luisa helped  her sister-in-law, Margarita of Borbon-Parma, "carlist Queen of Spain" who looked after the carlist soldiers. She lived with herrma till her death (August 3 1874).Many pictures were  taken during this war.Maybe some of them with Margarita and Luisa still exist in Pau There is also the pictures taken in Cannes during the marriage???

REMI

[paola]

Maybe the Bourbon Parma archives have pictures of Countess of Bardi?  Are these archives available? I think a part of them were available recently for a biography of the Count of Chambord. It would be interested to find pictures of her wedding in Cannes.

[REMI]

The Borbon-Parma archives (Archivo Borbonico) are available in Lucca (Italy).

REMI

[REMI]

[Svetabel]

That's Maria Immaculata in the end of 1860s years.