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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #121 on: April 01, 2009, 09:18:50 AM »


I recently found the 2nd of these 2 pics misindentified (at least according to me) as one ofEmpress Elisabeth of Austria's sisters. Do you think she could be Luisa Bardi ? (that is if we agree that the woman on the first pic is Luisa Bardi)
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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #122 on: April 01, 2009, 11:24:44 AM »
What a lovely picture  Agneschen! Thanks for posting it. I looks to me it is the same woman, Luisa of Bardi. It is for sure not a sister of Empress Elisabeth.

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #123 on: April 01, 2009, 12:56:23 PM »


Many thanks, Agneschen for posting this very interesting picture. I am very happy to se it. I think also she might be Maria Immacolata LUISA di Borbone of Two Sicilie, Count of Bardi's first spouse. (1855-1874)
Here above a pic of Luisa younger, already posted...

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #124 on: April 01, 2009, 03:01:21 PM »
Nice pictures, REMI and Agneschen, thanks for posting!
But I have another question: Are there any pictures of Beatrice (1879-1946), one of daughters of Roberto of Parma from his first marriage with Maria Pia? She was one of three healthy children from this marriage and she was married with Count (?) Luchesi-Palli.

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2009, 04:34:51 PM »
But I have another question: Are there any pictures of Beatrice (1879-1946), one of daughters of Roberto of Parma from his first marriage with Maria Pia? She was one of three healthy children from this marriage and she was married with Count (?) Luchesi-Palli.

Beatrice as a child

Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2009, 04:40:56 PM »
Nice pictures, REMI and Agneschen, thanks for posting!
But I have another question: Are there any pictures of Beatrice (1879-1946), one of daughters of Roberto of Parma from his first marriage with Maria Pia? She was one of three healthy children from this marriage and she was married with Count (?) Luchesi-Palli.


Beatrice of Borbone Parma (1879-1946) in 1894 in Schwarzau at the age of 15 years. She married Count Pietro Lucchesi Palli in 1906

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #127 on: April 01, 2009, 04:54:13 PM »
REMI, I'm sure you know that the little picture of Beatrice is part of a wonderful family group. It would be great to know which face belongs to which name. Are you able to identify all family members - I guess I'm not.

Here it is:



Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #128 on: April 01, 2009, 04:55:11 PM »
Here I have another family group picture:

Ich aber breite trauernd aus
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Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #129 on: April 01, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »
REMI, I'm sure you know that the little picture of Beatrice is part of a wonderful family group. It would be great to know which face belongs to which name. Are you able to identify all family members - I guess I'm not.

Here it is:




Yes, Marie Charlotte...First row, from left to right: Sixte (Sisto) with his sister Adélaïde; Maria Immacolata; Maria-Luisa of Bulgaria with his son Boris; Zita, seated on a little chair;duchess Maria-Antonia  with his Felix (future prince of Luxemburg): Xavier (Saverio ou Javier); Luisa; Maria Pia;Franciska.
Second row:Beatrice; Duke Roberto of Parma, in uniform of Bulgarian colonel; Giuseppe 1st (Josef),  duke of Parma in 1939; Enrico 1st (Heinrich), duke of Parma in 1907; Elias 1st (Elie) duke of Parma in 1950; Maria-Teresa;

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2009, 05:26:15 PM »
Thanks a lot. You are very kind. I have to write the names down and keep this sheet of paper in my Bourbon-Parma book. :-)
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #131 on: April 02, 2009, 03:58:51 AM »
Thanks a lot. You are very kind. I have to write the names down and keep this sheet of paper in my Bourbon-Parma book. :-)

First of all, thank you very much for the pic of Beatrice, child....



Marie, I have tried to identify the 20 persons on this other pic taken in 1906.

1.Isabella (1898-1984)
2.Duke Roberto of Parma (1848-1907), a year before his death...
3.Luigi (1899-1967)
4.Gaetano (1905-1958)
5.Duchess Maria Antonia (1862-1959)
6. Renato (1894-1962)
7. Immacolata (1874-1914)
8.Maria Antonia (1895-1977) " Mother Maria Antonia", Benedictine in Solesmes, France.
9.Franciska, "Cicca" (1890-1978) "Mother Scholastique, Benedictine in Solesmes.
10.Pia (1877-1915).
11.Luisa (1872-1943)
12.Enrichetta (1903-1987)
13.Adelaïde 1885-1959, "Mother Maria Benedicte", Prioress of the Sainte Cécile Convent of Solesmes ,a year before her departure to Santa Cecilia Convent in Ryde (Wight Island).
14.Maria Teresa (1876-1959).
15. Giuseppe 1st (1875-1950)
16. Saverio (1889-1977), future Javier "king of the Carlists...
17.Enrico 1st (1873-1939).
18. Sisto (1886-1934).
19. ZITA (1892-1989)
20. Felice (FELIX) (1893-1970).

We have 18 children of Duke Roberto
Are missing 6 others: Maria Luisa, dead in Sofia in 1899; Ferdinando, Anastasia and Augusto, dead in infancy; Elias, married in Viena; and Beatrice, just married with Count Pietro Lucchesi Palli, in honey moon...

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #132 on: April 02, 2009, 06:37:24 AM »
Where was taken this picture? Villa Pianore?

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #133 on: April 03, 2009, 04:17:05 AM »
Where was taken this picture? Villa Pianore?

Paola,the two pics we were talking about two days ago were taken in Schwarzau in 1894 and 1906.
In Italy, the name of the estate is: la villa delle Pianore or in english the villa of the Pianore.

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Re: Duke Roberto I of Parma, and his family of 24 children
« Reply #134 on: April 03, 2009, 05:49:51 AM »
Thanks REMI for telling the right name of the villa :) I would like someday to visit villa of the Pianore. Is  it private property of the Bourbons Parma? And do you know if the other property of this family - Villa Borbone, Tenuta Reale, Viareggio -  is open to public?