Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovitch, discussion and pictures

[Svetabel]

Where was the above picture taken of the grave? I thought Sergei's grave was destroyed during the Soviet era.

The monument on the place of his tragical death was indeed destroyed by Lenin and his admiring acolytes. But the coffin was for many years underground, just under the paved parking of the Soviet officials' cars. In the 1990s the coffin had been dug out and after some time transfered to the Novospassky Monastery.

[Dominic_Albanese]

Below is a link to an article entitled:  "The word, delivered on 17 February 2005, on the occasion of 100 anniversary of the tragic death of Grand Duke"

http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.spasnanovom.ru/330105&usg=ALkJrhisw--rwlQ3V1xecw05ku8t_g0o5Q

If it doesn't automatically translate you can translate it via Google.

It's an interesting article on the life and death of Grand Duke Serge

enjoy!

dca

[rgt9w]

Was the recreation of the memorial for Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovitch placed on the site of his assassination like the original or was it located elsewhere due to modern construction in Moscow?

http://fotosa.ru/stock_photo/Reflexo/p_2548157.jpg

[Svetabel]

Was the recreation of the memorial for Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovitch placed on the site of his assassination like the original or was it located elsewhere due to modern construction in Moscow?

http://fotosa.ru/stock_photo/Reflexo/p_2548157.jpg

No, it's not on the place of his death but at the NovoSpasskiy Monastery.

[Janet Ashton]

Below is a link to an article entitled:  "The word, delivered on 17 February 2005, on the occasion of 100 anniversary of the tragic death of Grand Duke"

http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.spasnanovom.ru/330105&usg=ALkJrhisw--rwlQ3V1xecw05ku8t_g0o5Q

If it doesn't automatically translate you can translate it via Google.

It's an interesting article on the life and death of Grand Duke Serge

enjoy!

dca

Thanks for posting it - there is some interesting stuff in there, but it's pretty scary that they insist on referring to him as a "martyr" who died for his faith, and state - on the basis of God knows what evidence - that he and Ella decided before marriage to "live as brother and sister" to keep themselves pure. Only to the sort of extreme nationalists who see the autocratic monarchy as the only government for Russia can Serge be considered a "martyr" and it's alarming so that so many churches in Russia seem actively to subscribe to this viewpoint.

[Svetabel]

 that they insist on referring to him as a "martyr" who died for his faith, and state - on the basis of God knows what evidence - that he and Ella decided before marriage to "live as brother and sister" to keep themselves pure.

The position of "live as brother and sister" has its roots in canonization of GDss Elizaveta - the early books on her of the 1990s had contained that "exciting" revelation.  I always wondered where did they find such interesting info? Did the Grand Ducal pair personally unfold to them this "truth"?...nonsense.

[Dominic_Albanese]

Below is a link to an article entitled:  "The word, delivered on 17 February 2005, on the occasion of 100 anniversary of the tragic death of Grand Duke"

http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.spasnanovom.ru/330105&usg=ALkJrhisw--rwlQ3V1xecw05ku8t_g0o5Q

If it doesn't automatically translate you can translate it via Google.

It's an interesting article on the life and death of Grand Duke Serge

enjoy!

dca

Thanks for posting it - there is some interesting stuff in there, but it's pretty scary that they insist on referring to him as a "martyr" who died for his faith, and state - on the basis of God knows what evidence - that he and Ella decided before marriage to "live as brother and sister" to keep themselves pure. Only to the sort of extreme nationalists who see the autocratic monarchy as the only government for Russia can Serge be considered a "martyr" and it's alarming so that so many churches in Russia seem actively to subscribe to this viewpoint.

You are quite right Janet (Which, by the way - long time no talk too - Hello!).  It is curious how the Orthodox Church can be so selective in what it recognizes and what it chooses not to and how it interperts some facts (while ignorning others) as history.  I am anxiously waiting on the new Grand Duke Serge book from Arturo - I've been interested in a deeper analysis of all the son's of Alexander II for years and hope this is the beginning of the opening of this interesting group of men.

Hope all is well-

best,
dca

[Dominic_Albanese]

Can someone confirm for me - is this the actual current grave of GD Sergei in the NovoSpasskiy Monastery?  I am aware of the fact that  his grave was inadvertantly perserved under a soviet parking lot for years and he was eventually moved to the monastery - I'm wondering if this is a real picture of the current grave? 

many thanks
dca

[Svetabel]

Can someone confirm for me - is this the actual current grave of GD Sergei in the NovoSpasskiy Monastery?  I am aware of the fact that  his grave was inadvertantly perserved under a soviet parking lot for years and he was eventually moved to the monastery - I'm wondering if this is a real picture of the current grave? 

many thanks
dca

Yes, that's the grave of Grand Duke at the Preobrazhenskiy Cathedral of the Monastery. His grave is among the other graves of the Romanovs of the 16-17 centuries - I mean ancestors of the 1st Romanov Tzar Mikhail Fedorovitch.

[ashanti01]

Sergei and Paul

[ashanti01]

Sergei & Paul

[Svetabel]

GD Sergei in 1883

[Svetabel]

GD Sergei in a period costume, and his aide-de-campe

[Svetabel]

With brother Pavel, Empress Maria Fedorovna and her daughetr Xenia in 1883

[ashanti01]

Thanks for the photos Svetabel.

I had never seen the first two before. In the first picture he looks so vulnerable, I love it.