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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2005, 11:25:42 PM »
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I think there are more in the book (The tercentennary of St. Petersburg...& I'll post some more tomorrow & try to find out where the originals are from.  :))!




that would be great!   i'd really appreciate it, especially since i've never seen the tercentary book....   you rawk! ;)
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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2005, 07:27:14 PM »
It might be a poor translation in the book but it says Study  :-/.

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2005, 01:30:35 AM »
I would like to inform that from 20th June till the end of August an exhibition of Yves Saint Laurent's wedding dresses will be held inside of Moika Palace.
It should be very good.
Long time ago I went to Laurent's exhibition in Hermitage. It was very good too.

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2005, 04:39:22 AM »
does anyone have any idea why this doorway (the one on the left)  was blocked-up?  
(i've also wondered if this was the entrance Feliks mentioned in LOST SPLENDOUR.   the one he had created for himself & Irina to the apartments he was furnishing right before the revolution...?)


what happened to this door?   does anyone know, for sure, where it opened into?
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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2005, 01:30:49 PM »
When was the picture with the blocked door taken? A month ago, April 19th I passed by the palace, and the door was not blocked. It is the entrance for ex. from where you have access to the cellar room, where Yusupov received Rasputin on the night of the murder.
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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2005, 11:41:53 AM »
The door that Yusupov refers to is shown in the first picture at the side of the house.  It is partially hidden in the picture by the trees but you seen see it between the windows.  It is 100% certain that this is the door although it is now metal and once was wood.  Yusupov's references to it are quite clear;

it was in the courtyard, the side gates were open (or not) and the main gates would have been in the centre of what now is a children's playground.

You have to imagine an iron fence running from the side of the Palace on the left of the first picture across the front of the playground.

There was one set of gates (adjacent to the end of the palace) and one in the centre of the courtyard.

Yusupov, Pursihkevich and Lazovert describe it in their accounts of the murder.  You will find references to the cat being parked in the courtyard infront of the door.  the references to ingress and removing the body are very specific in both Y and P's accounts.

It was only when Rasputin is alleged to have escaped that Y says he ran with his butler, through the main entrance on the Moika and along the front of the fencing in a bid to cut Rasputin off

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2005, 12:18:22 PM »
Richard, I may be wrong, but I always thought Felix meant the inner courtyard, opening out onto Offitserskaia Ulitsa, as his Father's rooms were on the Moika side and Felix's rooms on the opposite side. Here are some 1988 photos showing the inner courtyard and the door at the very back which I thought was the one R went out of, and Felix went out the Moika door to head him off in case he as already out in Offisterskaia.  Would it not have made more sense for the car to be parked inside the far more private semi-circular courtyard, enclosed totally by the walls where no one could see what was going on inside instead of out on the main Moika side where anyone could look thru the wrought iron fence??

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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2005, 12:26:12 PM »
Rob, Color me dumb, but is the second picture the gate at the very back of the property on Offisterskaia Ulitsa???  Or is that on the Moika side??  What you say has always made more sense to me than R. going out the side of the building right by the Moika, that the pictures posted before have shown.
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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2005, 12:29:26 PM »
Arleen, your color is exactly correct! That gate is the Offitserskaia entrance into the semi-circular courtyard in the upper photo.


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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2005, 08:22:48 AM »
Brian do you have a ground floor plan of the Palace?

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2005, 08:23:24 AM »
You seem very interested in this Palace, have you visited it?

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2005, 06:16:14 PM »
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You seem very interested in this Palace, have you visited it?




i love this building.     for some reason, whatever it may be, this house absolutely fascinates me.  

no, i've never been there (and i doubt i'll ever be lucky enough to visit it... :'(  )




     i love this house.

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2005, 06:36:08 PM »
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Brian do you have a ground floor plan of the Palace?



the only plan i have is a small, rather crude, plan of the principle floor (the floor with the main entertaining rooms.)     i would LOVE to see the plan of the ground floor; and of Feliks & Irina's entresol.

i've always hoped that someday i'd get to see the  plans for the whole palace?       but realizing it will never happen.... well, that makes me want to cry.


every time i see a photo of this palace that have never seen before, the hair on the back of my neck stands up; my skin gets all "goose-fleshy".  this place has the strangest effect on me.     and i love it  ;D
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like the passengers in his car."

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Re: The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg
« Reply #74 on: May 23, 2005, 11:15:48 AM »
I'm sorry I have the ground floor plan, if I found it I will post it.