The Yusupov Palace on Moika, St.Petersbourg

[brnbg aka: liljones1968]

I'm sorry I have the ground floor plan, if I found it I will post it.

it would be wonderful if you could find & post the one/s you have  

[Arleen_Ristau]

Brian, I know EXACTLY how you feel about this palace.  I feel the same excitment whenever I see "anything" new about the house.  But especially the photographs.  

It is the first palace I would go to visit if I ever was lucky enough to get to St. Petersburg, but sadly that will never happen. You know its really nice to know other people feel the same way!!

..Arleen

[amedeo]

I'm sorry I can't find the floor plan at the moment , it is in a cd I borrowed to a friend of mine.

bye bye

[Reco]

first floor plan



It is not the facade on the Fontanka, it is the facade on the Moika

[Reco]

You can see this ground floor olan at the topic Inside the Moika palace

[brnbg aka: liljones1968]

You can see this ground floor olan at the topic Inside the Moika palace

LOL

thanks reco!    but that's the plan I created.    since i've never been able to locate a ground floor plan, i was trying to see if i could recreate it using the 1st floor plan and the written descriptions of the ground floor rooms....but it ended-up being too confusing.    i could never figure-out the rooms for Feliks & Irina's apartments.   and i could never figure-out the room arrangement for the elder Feliks' apartments.       the only parts i got correct are the central hall & staircase & most of the courtyard & colonnade.      

[BobG]

Brian,
Quoting Richard Cullen:

Hi,

I have copies of the scene of crimes photographs - Felix's entrance was at the side of the Palace - where the children's playgound is now.  It is hard to visualise as there were 6' foot high railings along the front of the yard, which is now the playground.  The railings come up to the height of the windows.

the windows in the basement room are tiny, above head height.

Closest to the Palace in the yard were a set of gates, then a length of railings and then the main gate with the gate keepers hut.

When you read the files from GARF and compare with the photographs you can fit the pieces together.

Although I know the passages these do not feature in ingress, egress from the palace at the time of R's murder.  But the pictures are great.

When the appropriate permissions arrive I will post the pics, you can see where the investigators have marked the blood patterns

Hope this helps

Richard

Richard

You can see in your first floorplan of Felix and Irina's apartment the door on the very left of their suite which would coincide with Richard's description.  I would not be a bit surprised if this entrance was used mostly by Felix for entrance to his basement rooms below his and Irina's apartment and he could use it to bring "guests" privately into his rooms
In old pictures of the palace, the "vanishing doorway" clearly is there, and I think must have been the main entrance to Felix and Irina's suite.
I think you have done a great job with the floorplans and wish we could get an accurate set of Felix's rooms.
Bob G

[Reco]

 The Moika palace : view from the roof of the St Isaac's Cathedral

[Arleen_Ristau]

Reco, Many thanks for the wonderful picture from the Cathedrial it explains so much.  I always thought there was a building jammed next to Felix end of the Moika palace.  Now I see plenty of room for what we have always heard took place.
..A

[Reco]

Legend said : Moyka94_Jusupovsky_dvorec_2-02-2004

[amedeo]

Wonderful, these pics are very big!

bye bye

[Arleen_Ristau]

For some reason Brian, these pictures have only opened about an inch...enough to drive me absolutely nuts with wanting to see them.
Probably just my machine tho.....
..Arleen

[Forum Admin]

Brian,
You pictures, while great, are simply too large and there are too many in one posting. PLEASE re-size them, and make sure resolution is no more than 72dpi.
Thanks

[Arleen_Ristau]

Dear Brian, This time when I came back all of the pictures opened....and they are glorious!  I think that FINALLY I have got the positioning of the palace in my mind.....are you and I the only ones who have not been there?                                                               This is really an odd shaped palace...they must have added onto it thru the ages and it kinda grew crooked.....but I can see now that from the side of the building Rasputin had a large area to run thru, to get to the fence and the gate....and also WHY the police heard so much......they were right across the Moika.  If this had all taken place back in the courtyard, it wouldn't have been heard so well and no one could have seen anything from the outside.
Many thanks for your wonderful pictures.
A pitty we can't get there Brian.....
..Arleen  

[Reco]

brnbg aka: liljones1968

Where did you take the aerial view of the streets of
St Petersburg ? Is it from space "satellite" like the tsunami ? I hope you undestand my bad english.