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Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« on: July 05, 2005, 07:31:05 AM »
I have been reading a lot about Peter the Great and wanted to know more about his first wife Yevdokia Lopukhina!I am interested also in her portrait in colour since I could not find anything on the web...And assume,since Peter II was for brief an Emperor that there schould be some of her!

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2005, 11:39:04 AM »
Well, Yevdokia was very religious and attached to the tradition, for her family was conservative. Peter did not love her, and often urged her to take the veil, which she eventually did. Yevdokia lived in a monastery for almost twenty years.
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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2005, 12:04:14 PM »
Her birthday was/is 30 June/10 July 1670. I have been trying to locate a picture of her.
She died 27 August/7 September 1731. [divorced from Peter 1689].
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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2005, 12:13:42 PM »
Please do,I would like to see how she looked like so much,but can't find anything on the web!

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2005, 02:10:04 PM »
She was beatiful woman.
She went to the Pokrovsky Monastery of Suzdaly, when she had a lover. It is said that she was preparing some little court revolution. She wrote letters to her son Alexey.
Peter then transferred her to the Novodevichy Monastery in Moscow where she died and we could see her crypt there in the old Smolensky cathedral.
Peter II used to visit her in the Monastery before she died.

There is a rumour that Nicholas II also often came to the  Suzdal Pokrovsky Monsastery to ask the God for his Alexey.But maybe, it is just rumour.
Now in Suzdal on 16th July will take place famouse Cucumber Festival. Because this city is famouse by cucumbers. Almost all Romanovs eat the Suzdal's cucumbers every day.

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2005, 02:13:59 PM »
Can you find us a picture of her, Hikaru ? Please ?
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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2005, 02:55:56 PM »
Yes I have a photo , but have no scanner.
I forgot to say that  Yevdokiya also made a small stop in the Shlisselyburg Fortress by the order of Ekaterina I.
But she survived and died only in 1831.
Her Grandson Peter II  wanted her to live with him in the Palace as the Empresse but she choose the Novodevichy Monastery.

When Evdokiya forced to become a nun , her name was changed to Elena.

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2005, 06:16:07 PM »
Evdokia Feodorovna Lopukhina was born outside of the city of Moscow on 30 June 1670 (O.S.) to Feodor Abramovich Lopukhin and Ustinia Bogdanovna Rtishcheva. She married Peter Alexeivich Romanov on 6 February 1689, They had three sons, Alexis in 1680, Alexander, in 1691 and an unnamed son in 1693. Of these three children only the first born lived to adulthood. The couple divorced in 1698. Evdokia lived on until her death on 27 August 1731 (O.S.).

Does anyone know if Axinia Feodorovna Lopukhina was the sister of Evdokia Feodorovna Loupukhina? Axinia Feodorovna Lopukhina was the wife of Prince Boris Kurakin who was Peter the Great's Ambassador to England and France.

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »


The unnamed son was not unnamed, his name was Paul, he died aged five months. Peter II, with his ambiguous and egoistic character, never truly wanted his grandmother by his side, but he proposed it to her just in order to do what "seemed to be correct". He must have felt relieved when she refused to leave her convent!!! His visits to Eudoxia were sporadic and of courtesy, never for pleasure. Eudoxia, by the way, judged her grandson to be exactly as impulsive, charming and attractive as Peter I had been, but she knew that Peter II was far less talented than her ex-husband.

This is just a curious remark: I read somewhere, although it was not written in a reliable source (Internet article), that Peter I divorced from Eudoxia on charges of adultery and lesbianism!! I'll try to learn more about this, but just to see what you think about it and if you have also read it somewhere!!
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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2005, 07:22:50 PM »
Eudoxia Lopukhina

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2005, 11:43:30 PM »
Peter II died at 14. We can not say how much he was talented.
A lot of people around he said that he had  a lot of common points with Peter I.

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2005, 05:48:44 AM »


Yes, but we know that Peter was capricious, egoistic and loved alcohol. He also engaged in many rage fits and he seduced men and women at this young age. I think that we can, indeed, see if someone is talented when he is 14 or not.

He was not happy with his marriage to Catherine Menshikova but he still went ahead with it. I don't think he would have been a good ruler, always interested in parties, alcohol and sex (precisely when he was JUST between 12 and 14!!). He was controlled by his many favourites, such as his aunt and possible lover Elizabeth Petrovna (firstly) and his lover Ivan Dolgoruky (secondly). I think there is evidence enough that, as Eudoxia thought of him, he would have been very much alike his grandfather as a person but, lacking Peter I's talents, he would have failed to reign as successfully as Peter I did.


Has anyone discovered anything about Eudoxia's lesbianism? Is this true?
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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2005, 07:19:47 AM »
Unfortunately no, but I 've read that Alexander Menshikov was Peter I's lover. Is THIS true?

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2005, 07:23:09 AM »
About PEter II , there are several points of view.
Maybe when he will be the Tsar, he could be better that he was. HE was not a fool.
But we will know know about it.
His crypt is in Arkhangelsky Cathedral of Moscow Kremlin.

I never heard about Evdokiya as l......The nuns of Suzdal, they had no necessary to be lesbians!
They had the  secret tunnel connected with the one of the biggest men's convent in Russia - Spaso-Efimievsky convent.

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Re: Yevdokia Lopukhina, 1st wife of Emperor Peter the Great
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2005, 07:44:50 AM »


About Peter and Alexander, it is probably true that they were lovers, I have heard that more than once. So many years together, sharing friendliness, adventures and even lovers... It is not a stupid idea, from my point of view it was indeed very possible.

When Alexander was much caring for his wife than for the Tsar, Peter became very angry and jealous, so, it could be!


Of course, hikaru, there are always different points of view for every monarch... Its obvious that ours, in this particular Tsar, differ from each other. But that is normal, even better, it makes the discussion richer!
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