Prince Henry (Heinrich) of Prussia, his family and descendants

[grandduchessella]

But you're not biased.    When is your VMH book coming out Ilana? I'm dying!

[Eddie_uk]

Yup, granny was pretty upset over that one.  She hadn't wanted Ella to go to RUssia, she didn't want Irene to marry Henry, and she sure didn't want ALix to marry Nicholas.  It must have been extremely frustrating.  The only grand-son-in-law she was happy about in that family is Louis (but then of course, why wouldn't she be? )

lol   you got to hand it to her!! Queen V was usually always right!!!  

[bluetoria]

You have to say, too, that QV - for all her adamant protestations about things - was really quite flexible when it came to her granddaughters' happiness. She might have objected at first, but she always came round in the end and did not stand in the way of their decisions.  

[Eddie_uk]

Very true blue! She was a great lady.

[Rosamund]

[grandduchessella]

It's so ironic to see that print! I'm still unpacking items I've had in storage the last few year and I actually had it! I don't even remember where I got it from--that's been a recurring them since I'd put items away during a foolish period when we moved to Mississippi--and so it's been like Christmas! Is this particular one though also from the Beaven book?

[Ssyentz]

GDElla,
Not only have you forgotten (but, characteristically, can retrieve!) more than most of us will ever know, you've also stored away more than most of us will ever have! You, my dear, are a living museum!  Thank God for your willingness to let all of us visit!

[grandduchessella]

Thanks Ssyentz. I was able to get quite a bit when I was in college and we were unloading TONS of old magazines at the library where I worked. That's primarily what I had in storage. I don't know what I was thinking.  

[Rosamund]

It's so ironic to see that print! I'm still unpacking items I've had in storage the last few year and I actually had it! I don't even remember where I got it from--that's been a recurring them since I'd put items away during a foolish period when we moved to Mississippi--and so it's been like Christmas! Is this particular one though also from the Beaven book?

Yes it is.  I think you might want to add the book to your collection; one chapter is devoted to the author recounting his personal recollections of the Empress Frederick at Schloss Friedrichshof.  

[Keith]

Does anyone know if Irene and Victoria Milford Haven met again after WWII?

I was also wondering if Irene attended VMH funeral?

Thanks.

[Eric_Lowe]

I have also heard that while Ella went through Surgery, Grand Duchess Marie Paulovna tried to chicken out of her marriage to Prince Wilhelm of Sweden. Irene told her that it will kill Ella if Marie decided to break the engagement. Quite the martinet here  :-/

[Eddie_uk]

Does anyone know if Irene and Victoria Milford Haven met again after WWII?

I was also wondering if Irene attended VMH funeral?

Thanks.

Good question Keith. I wish i could answer it! All i do know is that after the first world war, Victoria told her lady in waiting that things between Irene and herself could never be the same again. Quite sad really.

[grandduchessella]

Yes, there are some nice photos of those meetings--with Ernie as well--in Charlotte Zeepvatt's Queen Victoria's Family. As for WW2, I don't know. They were both pretty elderly then. Irene wasn't at Philip's wedding to EII for instance. She was German but there weren't Nazi connections there unlike the ones which embarrassed some members of Philip's family. It's not like Irene, or her sons, were involved in WW2.

[Keith]

Thanks everyone.

I had seen the picture of them, I believe in Sweden in the 30's with Louise. Also, heard that VMH attended Irene's 70th birthday celebration in 1936, but never really heard anything after that.

[Keith]

 All i do know is that after the first world war, Victoria told her lady in waiting that things between Irene and herself could never be the same again. Quite sad really.

I've heard that to, but it seems Victoria had a fairly good relationship with Ernie after the war. If that's true, does anyone know why not quite the same with Irene? Did Irene possibly express pro-german sentiments when they corresponded or met after WWI? I always thought the Hesse sisters were pretty pro-english in their sentiments.

Or was Irene just to closely associated with the Kaiser, and Victoria wanted to distance herself from that?