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« Reply #210 on: February 23, 2006, 05:01:48 AM »
Ernst Ludwig wrote of her, after Henry's death:

"She is alone now but in spite of this she manages to do so much that she is sometimes completely worn out. Her only thought and concern is to find ways in which she can help people time and time again."

I don't believe she was hard-hearted, though she is rather overshadowed by Victoria's brilliance and Ella's saintliness. The fact that she cried when Ella converted is perhaps more indicative of her own religious beliefs and her concern for her father, rather than condemning Ella. Today, when religion is not so vital in the lives of many people, it may be difficult for us to understand the reactions of people of another era to whom adherence to a particular faith was imperative.

Regarding Marie, I think she has rather a selective memory and tends to be very bitter about many people. She originally wanted to marry then changed her mind, perhaps because she had 'cold feet' and she was dithering about when Ella told her to make up her mind. Isn't it possible that Irene's words were slightly twisted or exaggerated by Marie, later? Perhaps, seeing that Ella was ill at the time,  Irene said something like, Ella is ill and doesn't need this added worry...it will kill her so make your mind up!!"

It's interesting, too, that Henry often gets 'a bad press' for his short temper etc. but Marie Mallet, meeting him at Kiel in 1896, said she and the other ladies-in-waiting thought him, "the nicest male royalty going" whereas Irene's ladies-in-waiting, she thought 'very dull and by no means easy to get on with.'

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« Reply #211 on: February 23, 2006, 04:18:05 PM »
Who knows what the whole story is with her son? I don't think she can be judged solely on that. If we listened to just accounts by Willy's supporters for instance, we'd think Vicky was the worst person to ever walk the face of the earth. There are always more than one side of the story. I think that Marlene or Art (who I think interviewed Albert of Prussia, Irene's grandson) could probably be of benefit here.

As for the Anna Anderson case, I think that shows her peacemaker side. How could she not be drawn to want to see for herself if just one of her nieces could have survived? I don't see it as being a meddler--she was close to the IF & had seen them not long before the war. As one of their closest blood relatives, she certainly wasn't out of her place to do so. The charge could be leveled far easier at many of the other royals who became involved with a lot less connection.
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« Reply #212 on: February 23, 2006, 08:35:41 PM »
Well...I don't think Irene was a peacemaker in the Anna case. If she had been, she should had done something constuctive (like Grand Duchess Olga or Grand Duke Andrei), instead she just stirred the waters and washed her hands clean. She later expressed doubts that Anna could have been her niece, but never bother to clear her own doubts...some help I would say.

I did met Afred in Art's conference, I think the word he used was "hard" not cruel or cold. It was then the image of the lovey-dovey image of Irene started to be tainted from my mind. Hey, every one had a dark side, even Irene...So I was not too shocked about it.

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« Reply #213 on: February 24, 2006, 08:43:09 AM »
A nice one of Irene looking very pretty



I little while ago I saw a great photo of Irenes wedding, taken from above, Vicky and Frits were on it and Empress Augusta. Please could anyone repost it? Thank you :)

Compare her to my AV, don't Alix and Irene look so similar at this age? I think Irene turned rather Matronly were as Alix didn't.  :)
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« Reply #214 on: February 24, 2006, 09:21:04 AM »
I think Alix's features were softer and finer than Irene. However even Alix aged much during the war years. I think Ella aged the best and VMH went gracefully.  ;)

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« Reply #215 on: February 24, 2006, 01:16:07 PM »
According to me, the 4 Hessian sisters resembled each other and all took after their mother Princess Alice. They had her thin face and long thin nose (Victoria the Hanoverian bulging eyes). Ernie, on the contrary, inherited his father's good looks.

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« Reply #216 on: February 24, 2006, 04:14:38 PM »
Here you go Eddieboy



You can see Vicky & Fritz at the top with the Dowager Empress Augusta seated in black; Feo next to her; Ella (?) & Wilhelm standing next to her with Dona on his other side; I think the blurry figure in front of Dona (in the simple dress and flowers) could be Alix
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« Reply #217 on: February 24, 2006, 05:11:38 PM »
Wonderful! thank you so much GD Ella, its super photo! Vicky looks lovely. Who are they mourning? Could that be Sophie on the right with the train or maybe she would be younger?

EDIT: are they mourning the Kaiser still?
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« Reply #218 on: February 24, 2006, 05:28:44 PM »
They were mourning Kaiser Wilhelm I. He had only died a couple months prior. Mourning was actually temporarily lifted to allow the women to put on their finer dresses and jewels. The Dowager Empress Augusta still wore black. Nonetheless, between that and the fragile health of Frederick III, it was a rather somber time. All the Hessian sisters married with some sort of cloud over them--Ella probably the least. VMH's wedding was toned down owing to the recent death of the Duke of Albany (Ella's was a month after VMH's), Irene's and, of course, Alix's.
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« Reply #219 on: March 04, 2006, 06:20:11 PM »
Someone earlier alluded the the fact that Irene and Henry were well off and owned a lot of property.  It's a proven fact that the Empress Agusta left the Bulk of her VAST estate to henry.  Since Irene and Henry had fewer children than willy and donna, Did irene's family come out of the Revolution a lot better off than willy's family ($$$$ wise) ?  Does Irene's heirs or Her granddaughter Barbara and her heirs still own a lot of that property?

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« Reply #220 on: March 04, 2006, 08:25:30 PM »
There was probably a steep loss of income though following the crash in the valuation of the mark in the 1930s.
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« Reply #221 on: March 05, 2006, 01:16:47 AM »
Yes...But like others Henry and Irene had property, land, jewels, and works of art (some from Friedrich III and some through Vicky). They however would be expected to curb their lifestyle, but since they were not known to be extravgent, it should not be too much of a problem.

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« Reply #222 on: April 11, 2006, 03:16:18 PM »
Henry of Prussia and Irene in their old days, 1922 Herrenhaus Hemmelmark.


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« Reply #223 on: April 11, 2006, 03:22:29 PM »
Henry of Prussia 1919


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« Reply #224 on: April 11, 2006, 03:35:57 PM »
Herrenhaus, Hemmelmark, 10 March 1922.

Princess Waldemar of Prussia, Baroness M K von Buxhoevden, Prince Henry of Prussia, Princess Irene of Prussia, Prince Waldemar of Prussia, Serge Wladimirovitch Markoff