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matt99

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Re: The plantagenets
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2008, 04:35:21 PM »


Elizabeth Woodville & her daughters.

Mari

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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2008, 05:49:54 AM »
Wonderful Images! On the one of Elizabeth Woodville there are two more under her thread. She has always been very interesting to me not just because that Edward IV married her secretly but of course the death of her two sons. She was described as as a beautiful woman, her most characteristic physical trait, beyond her long golden blond hair was her eyes  half lowered, and heavy lidded. While Hall described her as "lovely looking and feminine smiling (neither too wanton nor too humble)...her tongue so eloquent and her wit so pregnant.",


But also  "Her svelte appearance accounts well with Mancini's contemporary description 'propter forme prestanciam et morum elegantiam' -- beauty of person and charm of manner."
http://www.r3.org/rnt1991/paintedqueen.html 

ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 08:56:04 AM »

ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2008, 02:18:37 PM »

Mari

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2008, 03:09:17 AM »
These are wonderful...although probably idealized they give us some idea of the look of the Person. Thank You so much ...any more?.

ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2008, 09:00:25 AM »
These are wonderful...although probably idealized they give us some idea of the look of the Person. Thank You so much ...any more?.

You're Welcome !  and yes, they are most likely 'romanticized' portraits .... I do actually have some more :)

Eleanor of Aquitaine, wife of Henry II


ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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Re: The plantagenets
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2008, 09:04:46 AM »
Philippa of Hainault, wife of Edward III


Mari

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2008, 03:20:47 AM »
I found a wonderful description of Philippa of Hainault. She and Edward III met while children:

king and queen's first meeting:
 
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"He spied on the unwitting sisters, and pounced on the youngest of them, Philippa by name', at the time eight years old and nearest in age to Edward, who was nearly seven years. He had then subjected her to a minute and terrifying scrutiny. Apart from some criticism of her remaining baby teeth (they were 'not so white', he had found little fault with her solid physiognomy. Her hair betwixt blue-black and brown and not uncomely', her forehead large; her eyes blackish brown and deep, her nose though 'somewhat broad at the tip and also flattened', was 'yet no snub-nose'; her mouth was wide and generous, her ears and chin were 'comely enough', her mouth was wide and generous, she was of middle height for her age, well taught, and of 'fair carriage'.
 
'Her neck, shoulders, and all her body and lower limbs are reasonably well shapen; all her limbs are well set and unmaimed; and nought is amiss so far as a man may see. Moreover, she is brown of skin all over, and much like her father; and in all things she is pleasant enough to look at it seems to us.
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ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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Re: The plantagenets
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2008, 09:21:32 AM »
I found a wonderful description of Philippa of Hainault. She and Edward III met while children:

king and queen's first meeting:
 
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"He spied on the unwitting sisters, and pounced on the youngest of them, Philippa by name', at the time eight years old and nearest in age to Edward, who was nearly seven years. He had then subjected her to a minute and terrifying scrutiny. Apart from some criticism of her remaining baby teeth (they were 'not so white', he had found little fault with her solid physiognomy. Her hair betwixt blue-black and brown and not uncomely', her forehead large; her eyes blackish brown and deep, her nose though 'somewhat broad at the tip and also flattened', was 'yet no snub-nose'; her mouth was wide and generous, her ears and chin were 'comely enough', her mouth was wide and generous, she was of middle height for her age, well taught, and of 'fair carriage'.
 
'Her neck, shoulders, and all her body and lower limbs are reasonably well shapen; all her limbs are well set and unmaimed; and nought is amiss so far as a man may see. Moreover, she is brown of skin all over, and much like her father; and in all things she is pleasant enough to look at it seems to us.
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What a detailed description !   :D       * what source is the excerpt from ? *

Mari

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2008, 03:23:32 AM »
I got the description from this site http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/htm/de-avesnes.htm        worth looking at
 but they got the original quote from Edward III by Michael Packe

ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2008, 10:08:27 AM »
I got the description from this site http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/htm/de-avesnes.htm        worth looking at
 but they got the original quote from Edward III by Michael Packe

Thanks !  I'll definitely be looking through it ...  :)

ArchDss Louise-Henriette

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Re: The plantagenets
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 06:49:26 AM »
Another Plantagenet Era Queen ...  Isabel de France, wife of Edward II



Mari

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 11:28:08 PM »
Isabel de France wife of Edward II according to Doherty:

"The chroniclers attest to her loveliness,to her beautiful blonde hair which she inherited from her Father, Phillip Le Bel and her slightly arabic features which she inherited from her Mother Johanna of Navarre."  continuing......" her face and striking features are faithfully represented by a carved statue which decorates John of Eltham's tomb, her second son, in Westminster Abbey."

from Isabella and the Strange Death of Edward II by P.C. Doherty

matt99

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Re: The plantagenets
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 03:53:15 PM »
Very interesting, thanks Mari! :)

I find it hard to find physical descriptions or images of the children of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, its strange them havinbg such a large family & they are so hard to track info on??

Any info is appreciated as always!