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Re: The Grimaldi's of Monaco
« Reply #600 on: September 17, 2012, 07:18:07 PM »
The life of Stephanie was out of control quite a time before her mother's death, I think.  She was only 17 when Grace died but had already told her parents she wanted to become a racing car driver and move in with her then boyfriend and the stories of her behaviour and the way she treated her mother are legion and come from reputable sources such as her mother's friends. 

I think both of Grace's daughters made her life very unpleasant in its last years although Caroline did settle down somewhat after the failure of her first marriage.  It's the reason I've never really taken to those two. 

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« Reply #601 on: September 18, 2012, 12:32:22 PM »
Caroline is facing the failure of her third marriage.

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« Reply #602 on: September 18, 2012, 05:07:02 PM »
That is probably correct, given she and Ernst August haven't been seen together in some years, he not even attending Albert II's wedding in 2011.  It's fairly well established that Caroline began a relationship with her third husband whilst he was still married to his first wife, so I'm not particularly sympathetic to her but I am to their lovely young daughter Alexandra. 

Alexandra has a brightness and liveliness to her that always seems missing in the mournful looking Casiraghi offspring.  Just my view of course!

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« Reply #603 on: September 18, 2012, 08:19:59 PM »
Hi,

It may not be Caroline's fault that the marriage is faltering;  Ernest is not too reliable an individual to be faithful to any wife, as seen in his first marriage.
And, he does have a lothario's reputation among other negative traits!!!!

Also, I've heard that he is ill (illness undisclosed) and is rather reclusive now-a-days.....
Illness was given as the excuse for his absence at the Albert/Charlene wedding.  Who knows - this is all pretty much rumour laden!!!

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« Reply #604 on: September 18, 2012, 10:51:32 PM »
Yes. Alexandra was quite a lovely young woman. Maybe because she still have both her parents, unlike her half siblings.

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« Reply #605 on: September 28, 2012, 12:55:14 PM »
This is Charlotte Caisraghi's man of the moment...really...a total misfit and,if she has her way,it will be an old history repeated,mama and Junot..

Who's this old beggar,an actor from God knows where...really,it's so hard to find a prince these day,titled or not.So she shows up
with this crapule!Merde...and as for Charlotte?Drop dead gorgious doesn't equal the amount of grey cells one hoped for..

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« Reply #606 on: October 04, 2012, 01:48:32 PM »
First of all, Charlotte is not a princess (unlike her half-sister). She should marry into the money class (like her father had been). Second the actor is well known in France and starred in a movie with Audrey Tatou ("Coco before Chanel", "Amelie", "Da vinci Code"...).

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« Reply #607 on: October 04, 2012, 03:34:37 PM »
Is he that bad? He seems rather accomplished and the Grimaldi's certainly can't complain about an actor. : )

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His looks are interesting--from some angles he seems rather greasy and sleazy and from others, quite dashing. He has one child from a previous relationship. He is older than her (but my father was 14 yrs old than my Mom so I don't necessarily find that bad) but, boy, he does look like Junot.
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« Reply #608 on: October 05, 2012, 09:54:24 AM »
I agree. Don't think he is that bad. In fact his looks are quite exotic.

Also one has to remember that Charlotte lost her father at an early age, that she has a thing for older men is hardly surprising.

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« Reply #609 on: October 09, 2012, 12:25:55 AM »
Eric and I have been in private communication and have reached detente on this matter. For now, I feel the matter should be put to rest. Having felt insulted by a post, I don't want anyone else to feel insulted in return. I think we know Eric's views and he knows our response. It is best now to return to the Grimaldis and the lauding of Princess Grace for her charm and elegance--something which all of us, I'm sure, can agree she was a model of. :  )

Eric's comments on Grace Kelly were quite amusing knowing what we know today. Grace Kelly, despite her own beauty and intelligence, was engineered and packaged by Hollywood and sold to Europe. Her many romantic involvements with costars were carefully sealed. I don't think she was "lady like" by the day's standards but it was what people wanted to believe and believed.

Sorry I don't mean any offense.

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« Reply #610 on: October 09, 2012, 02:19:39 AM »
No offence taken, but I disagee with your post.  

Grace Kelly was her own person and her decisions to pursue an acting career and then to leave that career to wed the Prince of Monaco were her own, so I don't understand how you could regard her as "engineered and packaged".  Who were her many romantic relationships with costars carefully sealed by?  Hollywood stars entangled in relationships with married men tended not to be widely discussed in the 1950s and probably weren't later on regarding Grace out of respect for her role as princess but some stories did come out after she died.  I believe there was truth to some of these but also some exaggeration as well.  

And I think you are the only person I've ever read of who doesn't believe Grace was "lady like"!  I wonder how you personally define the term and who fits it in your opinion?  Just wondering!  
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« Reply #611 on: October 09, 2012, 10:38:51 AM »
I think the image of "Grace Kelly" as an ice cold blonde with a regal air was as much a creation of Grace herself and Hollywood combined. When she decided to become an actress, she changed her Philadelphia accent and developed her own almost British one. Grace dropped her glasses (although she sometimes wears them off camera) and wore contacts. She also projected a almost wasp like persona (one born of the established social class) while in reality her family did not belong to that class at all. Grace Kelly the image is by most who read her bio, a creation. Hollywood bought that package and sold her to the public as such. But the real Grace was much more human in her desires and aspirations. That was the reason she understood her daughters's frustrations, although she could not agree with them.

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« Reply #612 on: October 09, 2012, 06:39:29 PM »
No offence taken, but I disagee with your post.  

Grace Kelly was her own person and her decisions to pursue an acting career and then to leave that career to wed the Prince of Monaco were her own, so I don't understand how you could regard her as "engineered and packaged".  Who were her many romantic relationships with costars carefully sealed by?  Hollywood stars entangled in relationships with married men tended not to be widely discussed in the 1950s and probably weren't later on regarding Grace out of respect for her role as princess but some stories did come out after she died.  I believe there was truth to some of these but also some exaggeration as well.  

And I think you are the only person I've ever read of who doesn't believe Grace was "lady like"!  I wonder how you personally define the term and who fits it in your opinion?  Just wondering!  

I said "by the day's standards". I think multiple affairs with married costars would not fit in the "lady" category back then. The studios were very much behind her fairy tale and promoted it. I read this in a biography though I can't remember which one.

For me personally any women with positive impact to others are ladies :)

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« Reply #613 on: October 10, 2012, 01:23:31 AM »
"Of that day"

Nothing has changed much in how they behave. Hollywood people are just that people. Same with royalty, they all have their faults, they are human. People "knew" things about stars behaviour but it wasn't thrown around like it is today in gossip rags.

I lived on Santa Catalina Island for several years off the Southern Callifornia Coast. Everyone "knew" Natalie Wood had spent the night with Christopher Walken the night before she died. There was just no need to talk  about it.

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« Reply #614 on: October 10, 2012, 06:20:40 AM »
I think the image of "Grace Kelly" as an ice cold blonde with a regal air was as much a creation of Grace herself and Hollywood combined. When she decided to become an actress, she changed her Philadelphia accent and developed her own almost British one. Grace dropped her glasses (although she sometimes wears them off camera) and wore contacts. She also projected a almost wasp like persona (one born of the established social class) while in reality her family did not belong to that class at all. Grace Kelly the image is by most who read her bio, a creation. Hollywood bought that package and sold her to the public as such. But the real Grace was much more human in her desires and aspirations. That was the reason she understood her daughters's frustrations, although she could not agree with them.

What frustrations did the daughters have?