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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #165 on: April 19, 2007, 08:23:43 AM »
Which thing that she is wearing is the gift of the Mary's of the Empire?
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #166 on: April 20, 2007, 11:22:08 AM »


The gift from the "Mary's of the Empire" is the set of garter insignia that was presented to Queen Mary upon her appoointment as a Lady of the Garter.

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"Queen Mary photographed for George V's Silver Jubilee. To commemorate her Coronation in 1911, the 'Mary's of the Empire' - those bearing the name she chose as Queen (she was christened Victoria Mary Augusta Louise Olga Pauline Claudine Agnes) - had banded together to present her with the complete set of Garter insignia. On her left arm is the diamond-encrusted ble velvet Garter, on her breast the diamond-set Star, and on her hip the Lesser George, its cameo of St George and the dragon carved in sardonyx and set with diamonds and rubies".



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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #167 on: April 21, 2007, 06:09:53 AM »
I wonder which of the Royals today have the complete set of Garter Insignia? And would anything like this happen again for a Royal Lady- all the ladies of Britain (not the empire) with the same name as her give her such an impressive gift?
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #168 on: April 21, 2007, 05:32:04 PM »
I very much doubt that the "Camilla's of the United Kingdom" will present anyting to Camilla when she becomes consort.  She might get flowers and chocolate but, jewels, unlikely.

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« Reply #169 on: April 21, 2007, 06:49:27 PM »
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #170 on: April 21, 2007, 08:36:57 PM »
Camilla is not a very common name (not as common as Mary was in 1911) and I really doubt that the Camilla's would give such a gift, such a gift would be extremely expensive today.  It would be great if something like this happens, but it probably won't.

(If my name was Camilla, which it isn't, I would give her something.)

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #171 on: April 21, 2007, 08:44:21 PM »
Did the Elizabeths of the Empire give anything to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother in 1937?
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2007, 05:13:34 AM »
If you don't know GDE, who would?  ;) Does anyone know who has a complete set of Garter Insignia today? Does anyone other than the Queen have it?

I asked the questions about the name giving custom, because it seems to me to be a very old fashioned thing to do, it is a good thing, I like it a lot. I wasn't thinking of Camilla especially, but I wonder if any royal lady, say William's bride, would everyone in the UK with the same name buy her such a present? And are such presents only for coronations, or could they be for weddings too?  ??? And the present doesn't have to be as big as it was for May, it could just be one piece of jewellery.
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #173 on: April 22, 2007, 07:30:09 AM »
Though I am not old fashioned (except for my collection of vintage rhinestones jewelry) I thnk this is a great idea.

I am sure it would mean a great deal to QEII. 

Take up a collection, buy a gift certifcate to Garrad's and let QEII pick what she wants.

I would be curious and delighted to see QEII's personal taaste in jewelry.

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« Reply #174 on: April 22, 2007, 08:11:48 AM »
I think we can see her personal taste in jewelry from what she chooses to wear from the VAST amount in the vaults, etc. that she can choose from. And the pieces she likes the best are the ones that HM wears most often.

Would the Elizabeths of the UK provide the money?

I think it would be a better idea for the next Queen Consort, a gift from the Camilla's of the UK to Queen Camilla.
Or the garter insignia can be bought for her or for William's consort, whoever she ends up being, by the ladies of the UK that have the same name that she has. But as I said originally, I'm not sure if the ladies of the UK who have the same name as a particular royal lady would all give some money to give her a present.  ???
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #175 on: April 22, 2007, 08:54:20 AM »
I would still like to what style, if Elizabeth could choose anything she wanted , she would choose in jewelry.

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2007, 11:54:14 AM »
Hi Tampa Bay,

I was told by someone who worked at Windsor castle in the 70's that The Queen liked the circular necklace made out of the Cambridge emeralds and diamonds with the drop emerald and diamond very much.

Larry

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #177 on: April 22, 2007, 12:24:47 PM »
You know, I've noticed how strong QM's physical traits are still in the family today: QEII has her nose and Charles definitely has her face shape, mouth and nose! Must be some pretty strong genes!
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #178 on: April 22, 2007, 12:32:59 PM »
Hi Tampa Bay,

I was told by someone who worked at Windsor castle in the 70's that The Queen liked the circular necklace made out of the Cambridge emeralds and diamonds with the drop emerald and diamond very much.

Larry

Larry,

That is one killer necklace and I like the matching earrings just as much!

If I had the $$$$, I would have the parure copied in sapphires and hope I did not get sued for copyright infringement.  ;) ;) ;)

The necklace goes with any outfit from any time period: 1890's ball gowns to jeanns wuth jean jacket circa 2007.

THe necklace will always be on the cutting edge of fashion and always look moder, fresh and new.

Old Diamond Drawers really new what she was doing when she designed that necklace.

Of cousre the Vladamir tiara ,which the queen often wears with that parure, is also one of my favorietes.

Did you firend who worked at windsor tell you any pther good gossip?  Inquiring minds want to know!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #179 on: April 22, 2007, 01:10:43 PM »
Hi Tampa Bay,

I was told by someone who worked at Windsor castle in the 70's that The Queen liked the circular necklace made out of the Cambridge emeralds and diamonds with the drop emerald and diamond very much.

Larry

I LOVE that necklace, the Durbar necklace it's called. I ordered a copy of it with matching earrings, which I will be getting soon!  8) ;D :)

Yes, Queen Mary's physical characteristics, facial ones I mean, have really been passed on to her descendents, particularly the Queen.
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