Princes Volkonsky

[ukupeeter]

HSH Prince Grigori Volkonski ( 1870-1940) , Schloss Fall.

Prince Griogori`s aunt HSH Princesse Elisabeth Volkonskaja was a grandgrandgrandmother of Prince Peeter Volkonski.
HSH Princesse Elisabeth Volkonskaja was married to Prince Mihhail Sergeievitch Volkonski.




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HSH Prince Grigori Petrovich Volkonski (1870-1940)





HSH Prince Grigori Volkonski and his family

[ukupeeter]

complet genealogie of Volkonskis
http://rurik.genealogia.ru/pages/Volkon.htm

[David_Pritchard]

Some additions to your genealogy:

Grigori Semenovich Volkonski born 1742; died 1824
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Sergei Volkonski born 1788; died 1865
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Michail Volkonski born 1832; died 1909
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Peter Volkonski born 1861; died 1948 - Sergei Volkonski born 1860; died 1937
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Michail Volkonski, singer,  born 1891
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Andrei Volkonski, composer,  born 1933
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Peeter Volkonski, actor ,born 1954  

[ukupeeter]

Yee and more

Some additions to your genealogy:

Grigori Semenovich Volkonski born 1742; died 1824
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Sergei Volkonski born 1788; died 1865
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Michail Volkonski born 1832; died 1909
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Peter Volkonski born 1861; died 1948 - Sergei Volkonski born 1860; died 1937
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Michail Volkonski, singer,  born 1891; died 1961  
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Andrei Volkonski, composer,  born 1933  
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Peeter Volkonski, actor , born 1954  

[nwolkonsky]

Yes there are decendents living. My Husband and his sisters are the last of the Wolkonsky's of a branch as recorded by Jacques Ferrand and TF Boetter. I would also love to compare the family trees as posted above however it was in Russian. I speak no Russian. When contacted by researchers it is also recorded that some records of the Wolkonsky family trees have taken a wrong turn. I am not a researcher so I can not argue this. I only understand the family trees with lines as branches.

Here's what I want to know. Prince Dimitri Nicholas Wolkonsky died in Buenos Aires Argentina in the year 2000 or 2001. My husband would like to know where his Dad is burried. They were estranged upon his death. We live in the USA so it makes for several barriers.

[ashdean]

Yee and more

Some additions to your genealogy:
 
Grigori Semenovich Volkonski born 1742; died 1824
I  
Sergei Volkonski born 1788; died 1865
I  
Michail Volkonski born 1832; died 1909
I  
Peter Volkonski born 1861; died 1948 - Sergei Volkonski born 1860; died 1937
I  
Michail Volkonski, singer,  born 1891; died 1961  
I  
Andrei Volkonski, composer,  born 1933  
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Peeter Volkonski, actor , born 1954  

In 1937,Queen Mary mentions meeting Prince Serge who she remembered from her youth in Florence...this meant she met him in the Uk in the last year of his life...

[ashdean]

Just reading "The Way of Bitterness" Methuen 1932...the memoirs of Princess Peter Wolkonsky nee Countess Sophie A Bobrinsky (and in her first marriage Princess Peter Doulgorouky)..The Princess mentions visiting Fall the family estate on her way BACK to Russia to rescue her husband in 1919.
The intrepid Princess (who committed suicide in 1948 in Paris) later left Russia with also her dying mother in law Princess Vera.
The couple feature often in "Sofka" Hart Davis 1966,the memoirs of the Princesses only child Sofka Skipwith..nee Doulgoruky.Prince Peter died in Rome about a decade after his wife...

[dkirjanov]

Hello to all interested in the family of Grigory Petrovich Wolkonsky (who had 8 children) and his wife's family, the Shuvalovy !  I have just become a member of this site and have much to contribute, especially to those who are part of this family. As I saw some of the photos on this sight, I was taken aback by the photo of my great grandfather, Grigory Petrovich's picture in front of Fall. It is obviously a cut out from a bigger photo and has an inscription in French to my great Aunt, Sophia, who moved to Sweden from Fall and passed away there in the 1960s.  We have the same photo of him, and I was surprised to see it online, especially with the intimate description. It is a little surreal. I am the daughter of Alexander Kirjanov and the grand daughter of Olga Grigorievna Wolkonsky (his mother), who was the daughter of Grigory Petrovich Wolkonsky. She, her brother, Andrei, and her sister "Mayachka" (Maria) all came to the US at different times and stayed here. Olga G. came from Buenos Aires in the early 1980's to live in the Tolstoy Farm and then with us. She passed away in 1985. Andrei G. came in teh 1950's and passed away just after his sister. Mayachka (Maria Grig.) came also in the 1950's, I believe, and , the last I have heard, was married to a Mr. Livingston in California.  I will be happy to correspond with any relations of ours who are involved with this site.

I have a question to anyone who knows about the life of my great Uncle, Prince Sergei Wolkonsky (who wrote the Reminiscences, who taught at Wellesley COllege for several months before the Revolution, and who was the Director of the Imperial Theater in SP). A researcher at the Marina Tsvetaeva House-Museum in Moscow had a hard time finsing the answer to this, ad my father was unable to remember. The question is -- whom did Wolkonsky marry in Paris ?  What was her name and when did they get married ?

Thank you, Daria Kirjanov Mueller

[ashdean]

Hello to all interested in the family of Grigory Petrovich Wolkonsky (who had 8 children) and his wife's family, the Shuvalovy !  I have just become a member of this site and have much to contribute, especially to those who are part of this family. As I saw some of the photos on this sight, I was taken aback by the photo of my great grandfather, Grigory Petrovich's picture in front of Fall. It is obviously a cut out from a bigger photo and has an inscription in French to my great Aunt, Sophia, who moved to Sweden from Fall and passed away there in the 1960s.  We have the same photo of him, and I was surprised to see it online, especially with the intimate description. It is a little surreal. I am the daughter of Alexander Kirjanov and the grand daughter of Olga Grigorievna Wolkonsky (his mother), who was the daughter of Grigory Petrovich Wolkonsky. She, her brother, Andrei, and her sister "Mayachka" (Maria) all came to the US at different times and stayed here. Olga G. came from Buenos Aires in the early 1980's to live in the Tolstoy Farm and then with us. She passed away in 1985. Andrei G. came in teh 1950's and passed away just after his sister. Mayachka (Maria Grig.) came also in the 1950's, I believe, and , the last I have heard, was married to a Mr. Livingston in California.  I will be happy to correspond with any relations of ours who are involved with this site.

I have a question to anyone who knows about the life of my great Uncle, Prince Sergei Wolkonsky (who wrote the Reminiscences, who taught at Wellesley COllege for several months before the Revolution, and who was the Director of the Imperial Theater in SP). A researcher at the Marina Tsvetaeva House-Museum in Moscow had a hard time finsing the answer to this, ad my father was unable to remember. The question is -- whom did Wolkonsky marry in Paris ?  What was her name and when did they get married ?

Thank you, Daria Kirjanov Mueller

He may have married but wasn't he gay?

[Nicolay]

Quote:
.....wasn't he gay?

Why do you ask, have you been with him?

[ashdean]

Quote:
.....wasn't he gay?

Why do you ask, have you been with him?

Thats a rather acid remark....I did not pass any nasty comment about the Princes gender....just seemed to remember reading something about it ( in a book on Diaghilev..I think) and as  he died OVER 20 years before I was born it would be highly unlikely....by the way....if he had been alive he wouldnt have been my type..never was a gerontophile....AND IF I HAD BEEN WITH HIM I WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED TO ASK WOULD I !!!!!

[Nicolay]

He may have married but wasn't he gay?
[/quote]

>>>I did not pass any nasty comment about the Princes gender<<<

I think you and the readers are smart enough to understand what you did - intentended or unintentended??

Any Author or Milkmaid can bring a rumor to live.
Author - because he wants to sell his book, cause his writing skills are not good enough......
Milkmaid - because she hates her mistress or master

If you quote a "rumor" - you need to identify it as such, and don't just throw it on the wall like spaghetti and see if it sticks!

[ashdean]

He may have married but wasn't he gay?

>>>I did not pass any nasty comment about the Princes gender<<<

I think you and the readers are smart enough to understand what you did - intentended or unintentended??

Any Author or Milkmaid can bring a rumor to live.
Author - because he wants to sell his book, cause his writing skills are not good enough......
Milkmaid - because she hates her mistress or master

If you quote a "rumor" - you need to identify it as such, and don't just throw it on the wall like spaghetti and see if it sticks!
[/quote]Yes but you have no need to make such a remark as "have you been with him " it is silly to say the least as the man has been dead 70 years...anyway I will not argue any further..or post on this subject.

[Yseult]

I´m searching information about princess Zinaida Volkonskaya, née Zinaida Alexandrovna Beloselskaya-Belozerskaya. She married prince Nikolai Volkonsky and she was a great socialite in St. Petersburg, Moscow, and also in Rome, where she spent the last 40 years of her life. As far as I know, she was a closer friend of tsar Alexander I and also his mistress for a while, during the napoleonic wars; after these rough times, she settled in Rome with her husband.
If you know information about the lady, I would be pleased if you could post it here...

[ashdean]

Princess Zenaida is the subject of a biography published about 4 years ago..sadly I cannot as yet find the details..she is also much mentioned in Christine Sutherlands biography of her sister in law Marie "Princess of Siberia".