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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2006, 09:28:56 AM »
I don't think so...Although Rudolf was called Crown Prince by the foreign press.  ???

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2006, 09:45:50 AM »
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I don't think so...Although Rudolf was called Crown Prince by the foreign press.  ???


Crownprince means nothing else that sy is is next in succession to the throne. So it's the same as "heir to the throne".
(Just like in German & Hungarian... In The Austro-Hungarian Monarchy Rudolf was also "Kronprinz"/"Koronaherceg" and "Thronfolger" ("folger" is sy who follows sg or sy)/Tronorokos (orokos means hier).
I haven't heard about any specific title.

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2006, 10:36:17 AM »
Not that many monarchies have a specific and fixed title for heir to the throne; in fact, I can only think of Príncipe de Asturias in Spain and Prince of Wales in Britain. Oh, and Dauphin in France of course, and Prince of Piedmont for the Italian Savoys. I don't know if "Tsarevich" can be considered a separate title. The Prince of Tirnovo is I believe always the crown prince in Bulgaria too. The rest seem to be Thronfolger, Kromprinz, Erbprinz, Prince Héritier and so on. Austria I think had no title according to the original Almanach de Gotha of 1902 I bought in Geneva last year :D

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2006, 12:28:02 PM »
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The eight children of the late Emperor of Hungary pose in their home at Lequititio, Spain on June 22, 1929, where they live with their mother, the dowager Queen Zita. From left are, Grand Duke Otto, Grand Duchess Etelka, 15, Grand Duke Robert, 14, Grand Duke Felix, 13, Grand Duke Carl-Louis, 11, Grand Duke Rudolph, 10, Grand Duchess Sarolta, 8 and Grand Duchess Elizabeth. (AP Photo)
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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2006, 12:31:57 PM »


The grandson of the last Austrian emperor and Hungarian king, Ambassador Gyoergy Habsburg holds his son Charles-Constantin as his father Otto Habsburg, right, holds the child's hand during a family gathering in Soskut, south of Budapest, Hungary, on Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004. (AP Photo/MTI, Attila Kovacs)
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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2007, 03:36:39 PM »
Hi there,

I would like to see some pictures of the men and ladies of Empress Elisabeth´s court in Hungary, especially of Count Nikolaus "Niki" Esterházy and Elemer Batthyány (the latter wasn´t a real member of her court, but he participated often in the parforce hunts).


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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2007, 09:52:51 AM »
Goodmorning to all of you. I recently joined this forum, after lurking for a while, as I am amazed at the knowledge some of you have.
I live in the US, was born in Boedapest, grew up in the Netherlands and France, but spent most of my adult life in the US.
I was born in 1956 and during the uprising was taken to the Netherlands as a small baby by an elderly woman and was adopted by my parents. In 1848, my Hungarian Family fled to Germany and France, but returned to Hungary after their farm and estate was given back to them. On my 50th. birthday I received, through my mother's estate an envelop which contained several documents and a ring. Thankfully most of the documents are in German, French and a few in, what my assumption is, Hungarian. As soon as I am able to take a clear picture of the ring, I will post it.
Now, for my question;
Are there any biographies or other type of information available on Gu. Andrassy, Elemer Batthany and Nicolas Esterhazy. I know that these 3 gentlemen were closely associated with Empress Elisabeth in some 'form'. In the documents I received, are references made to a person in the Hungarian family who was to be considered Empress Elisabeth's 'good friend' (whatever that means). I know, by reading through most of the biographies written about E. Elisabeth, that references are being made to a relationship with these 3 men, but other than the 'biography' written by Maureen Fleming, nobody is saying really anything.
Any help in finding information about about the life of these 3 would be greatly appreciated.
thanks.

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2007, 01:37:34 PM »
I'm searching all I can find about the Coronation of Emperor Francis Joseph and Empress Elisabeth and Coronation of Emperor Charles and Empress Zita, but other that we can find all the time, something special  ;). Can you help me ?

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2007, 08:32:37 PM »
Did you search at the bio's of Sissi ? They have referrence to some good texts.  ;)

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 11:55:23 PM »

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Are there any biographies or other type of information available on Gu. Andrassy, Elemer Batthany and Nicolas Esterhazy

http://books.google.com/books?q=Nicolas+Esterhazy+of+Austria&btnG=Search+Books

I think this will help you search for Nicolas Esterhazy if you will set up an account and search through these Books and more for the names!

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2009, 02:16:00 PM »
I have this picture of Sissi with  her Hungarisch Ladies in Waiting  :-[. Does anybody have a better picture of it and know who are exactly the ladies in it ??? :


You can see them better here
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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2009, 10:41:55 AM »
Thanks !I saw photos of them in an Austrian/German book. They even adopted Sisi's hairstyle and dress...

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2009, 10:51:48 AM »
Yes i saw in the book that there was one lady which Sissi was close... but no names there..... That Lady sometimes gave here some help in taking baths....
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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2009, 12:36:02 PM »
She was one of the two chief Hungarian Ladies-in-waiting...

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Re: Habsburgs and their relationship with Hungary
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2009, 12:36:53 PM »
Indeed..... I'm still looking for photos of the ladies.... for now i have only those two.....
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