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CHRISinUSA

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Spanish Royal Palaces
« on: August 04, 2005, 09:15:51 AM »
The official Spanish Royal Court website is decidely vague about details of royal palaces and residences.  Also, it makes no mention of the new home of the heir apparent and his bride.  

Could someone educate me about which of the state owned palaces are still used by the royals, and at what times of the year?  Are there any privately owned royal residences in Spain?

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 05:48:08 AM »
Besides the Royal Palace of Madrid, El Pardo, Riofrio, La Granja, Aranjuez and El Escorial, there are the Royal Resindences of La Almudaina ( Palma de Mallorca ) and Reales Alcazares in Seville.
The former summer Residences of La Magdalena ( Santander ) and Miramar ( San Sebastina ), now are just for different purposes. Both of Them were a private property of the Royal family. La Magdalena was owned by King Alfoso XIII, and Miramar by Queen Maria Cristina.
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 06:04:56 AM »
I understand that Infanta Cristina and her family live in Barcelona. Where? In a palace?
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2005, 01:03:43 PM »
The King's residence in Lanzarote, where the late and well-remembered Countess of Barcelona died in 2000 was a gift to His Majesty from King Hussein of Jordan.  I do not know if the gifting of this residence was done to the King as a private gift or a present to him as King of Spain.

In Palma the family used another palace closer to the center of town, before Marivent was made available for them, which in turn allowed them access to a larger residence where entertaining would be easier and more convenient.

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2005, 03:23:49 AM »
Which royals are buried in the Monasterio de El Escorial, Spain?
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2005, 06:15:31 AM »
The Panteón de Reyes (King’s Cemetery) occupies a circular chapel located beneath the main altar of Escorial basilica, decorated with marble and bronzes.
It is there that the monarchs rest as well as their mothers, from Carlos I to present day with the exception of Felipe V and Fernando VI who rest in their respective foundations: The Ranch of San Idelfonso and the Salesas Reales in Madrid (Church of Santa Barbara).
The remains of the other Royal family members are in the adjoining Panteón de Infantes (Children’s Cemetery).

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2005, 11:40:24 AM »
In the Panteón de Reyes, we can find:

* Carlos I and V and his wife Isabel de Portugal .

* Felipe II and his fourth wife, Ana de Austria.

* Felipe III and his wife Margarita de Austria.

* Felipe IV and his two wives, Isabel de Borbón and Mariana de Austria.

* Carlos II.

* Luis I and his mother, María Luisa de Saboya.

* Carlos III and his wife, María Amalia de Sajonia.

* Carlos IV and his wife, María Luisa de Parma.

* Fernando VII and his fourth wife, María Cristina de Borbón.

* Isabel II and her husband, Francisco de Asís de Borbón.

* Alfonso XII and his second wife María Cristina de Habsburgo-Lorena.

* Alfonso XIII and his wife, Victoria Eugenia of Battemberg.

* Don Juan, count of Barcelona, and his wife, María de Borbón.


In the Panteón de Infantes we can find the queens that didn't have reigning children and other members of the Royal Family.


In the Panteón de Niños we can find the royal princes and princesses that died in infancy, interred in a magnificent common tomb that has the shape of a birthday cake.


I'll try to name some members of the royal family buried in the Panteón de Infantes, lets see if I don't get mistaken:

Of Juana la Loca and Felipe's children:  María, Dowager Queen of Hungary and Leonor, Dowager Queen of France.

Of Carlos I's children: Fernando (1529-1530), Juan (1537-1538), in the Panteón de Niños, and don Juan de Austria (1547-1578), his bastard son, in the Panteón de Infantes.

Of Felipe II's times: don Carlos (1545-1568), Isabel de Valois (1546-1568), their last daughter (b. and d. in 1568); his other children: Fernando (1571-1578), Carlos Lorenzo (1573-1575), Diego (1575-1582) and María (1580-1583).

Of Felipe III's times: his children María (1603-1603), Carlos (1607-1632), Margarita (1610-1617) and Alfonso (1611-1612) are certainly there. I am not sure about Fernando (1609-1641), he died in Brussels, but I think his corpse was sent to Spain, so he is very possibly buried in El Escorial.

Of Felipe IV's times: his children Margarita María (1621-1621), Margarita María Catalina (1623-1623), María Eugenia (1625-1627), Isabel (1627-1627), Baltasar Carlos (1629-1646), María Antonia (1635-1637), María Ambrosia (1655-1655), a stillborn daughter (1656), Felipe Próspero (1657-1661), Fernando (1658-1659) and his  two of his bastard sons: Francisco Fernando (1626-1634) and don Juan José (1629-1679).


Of Carlos II's times: his two wives, Marie Louise d'Orléans (1662-1689) and Maria Anna von Neuburg (1667-1740).


I think that's it for the Austrias, I'll post about the Bourbons tomorrow!
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2005, 04:33:16 PM »
Dear Unmigon,

You have describe it very well.

The Panteon de Reyes, is magnificent, but in my opinion, The Panteon of Infants and also the Panteon of Children, are really charming.

What do you think about the fact that D. Juan de Borbón and his wife, are going to be buried in this Panteon de Reyes, if they had never been Kings? Are you agree?

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2005, 08:22:37 AM »
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Dear Unmigon,

You have describe it very well.

The Panteon de Reyes, is magnificent, but in my opinion, The Panteon of Infants and also the Panteon of Children, are really charming.

What do you think about the fact that D. Juan de Borbón and his wife, are going to be buried in this Panteon de Reyes, if they had never been Kings? Are you agree?


Thanks, Isabel, I think the most charming of the three is the Panteón de Infantes Niños, the cake tomb is beautiful, as well as sad and tender.


About don Juan and doña María, I am quite "don Juanista" so I really agree. I think it is recognising that they were skipped by Franco and that Juan Carlos consented but that, in the end, they will rest where they should be resting.
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 04:51:25 AM »
I would like to know if one of Margarita of Austria's nephews, Charles of Austria (1606-1639) is also buried in El Escorial. Charles was a bastard son of her brother Maximilian and he was sent to Spain in 1610, I think where Margarita promised to bring him up. He died married but childless in 1639 in Madrid. It is possible that he is also buried there, but I don't know, really.


Empress María, infanta Juana and archduchess Margarita (Sister Margarita de la Cruz) are all buried in the Descalzas Convent, if I remember well. I can only think about Felipe IV's bastards being buried in El Escorial, but I think only the two I mentioned earlier are buried there. What about Margarita of Savoy (1589-1655)? She was the daughter of Carlo Emanuele II and Catalina Micaela. After becoming a widow she came to live in Spain, where she was very close to the Royal Family. She died here in Spain, so she could be buried in El Escorial, but I don't know? I'll try to do some research and see if I can discover anything!
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2005, 02:06:08 PM »
Some more or less extensive links to the Royal palaces of Spain.

El Escorial:
http://www.travelinginspain.com/el_escorial_royal.html

a site in dutch,but it has some nice images:
http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Hans/escorial.htm

Palacio Real,Madrid:
http://www.travelinginspain.com/royal.html

The Royal website:
http://www.casareal.es/casareal/home2i.html

Absolutely wonderful site:

http://www.patrimonionacional.es/en/home.htm

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 01:46:38 AM »
Does any one have any info on the Palacio Infante Don Luis at Boadilla del Monte? It is the site for some of the scenes of a new film called the Ghosts of Goya. The building is a very evocative semi ruin. Thank you.

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2006, 11:08:43 AM »
I understand that Prince Felipe and his bride were given a brand new home - a pavilian - in the grounds of the Zarzeula Palace.  Can anyone post a picture of that home?

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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2006, 04:44:33 AM »
Interesting thread!

We have the "historical palaces" and also "palaces used for the royal family". The most famous historical palaces are the Royal Palace of Madrid; el Escorial, Aranjuez and El Pardo near Madrid; La Granja and Riofrío at Segovia; La Almudaina at Mallorca... Also historical were Miramar at San Sebastian, or La Magdalena at Santander and Pedralbes at Barcelona. La Magdalena and Pedralbes were built as gifts offereds to Alfonso XIII.

The king and his queen lived in Zarzuela Palace, near to Madrid. Within Zarzuela complex is the new residence of Prince of Asturias and his wife Letizia. The royal family usually spend the summer holidays at Mallorca, but not a La Almudaina: they rested at Marivent Palace, a complex wich includes Son Vent, the residence of Felipe and Letizia.
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Re: Spanish Royal Palaces
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2006, 05:52:20 AM »
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Does any one have any info on the Palacio Infante Don Luis at Boadilla del Monte? It is the site for some of the scenes of a new film called the Ghosts of Goya. The building is a very evocative semi ruin. Thank you.

You´re right, kenneth...this is not a royal palace, but it was the palace of infante don Luis of Borbon and Farnese, and this is a very evocative place.

Boadilla belonged to the countess of Mirabel. Infante Luis Antonio of Bourbon Farnese acquired the tittle of "seigneur of Bobadilla" to this countess circa 1761. The same year, the infante also acquired the tittle of count of Chinchon to his elder brother infante Felipe.

This palace was the home of infante Luis and his -morganatic- wife Teresa de Vallabriga y Rozas. Teresa was a daughter of a colonel of equestry troops and the dowager countess of Torreseca. She did lost their parents in childhood and she has raised up for her aunt, the marchess of San Leonardo. Luis had forty nine years when he married Teresa, a lovely girl seventeen years old. The couple had a court at Boadilla Palace.
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