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« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2005, 04:07:40 PM »
I've always found Henry VII to be one of my favorite Tudor monarchs! :D

It's a damn shame that he doesn't get more credit for all that he accomplished. He brought the English back together after the tragic Rose Wars and established a very successful realm, both financially and socially.

True, he was odd looking. He reminds me of Ebenezeer Scrooge, hehehe. Tall, lean, and money grubbing. ;)

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I think Henry VII suffers from being in his son's shadow. I consider him a much beeter king in most ways - he made the country rich again, he brought stability and he abolished private armies. What do you all think of him?


Yeah, he does suffer a lot from being in his son's shadow. I think you're right, here. I don't know why Henry VIII gets so much credit when his father did all the work. ::)
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« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2005, 04:12:27 PM »
Yes, Henry left his son a financially secure relam that Henry VIII had bankrupt within a matter of years . . .  >:(
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« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2005, 04:28:34 PM »
Come on lads, what do you expect me to say..loyalty binds me! ;)(its ok my tongue is firmly in my cheek)
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« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2005, 04:29:51 PM »
OH YES!!!!!! now I am not only a domestic goddess, I am now A GOD HEEHEE
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« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2005, 04:34:34 PM »
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OH YES!!!!!! now I am not only a domestic goddess, I am now A GOD HEEHEE


Congratulation Your Holy Worshipfulness . . . a temple is already being constructed.  ;)
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« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2005, 04:42:37 PM »
Yeah, and I will probably have to clean it ;D
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« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2005, 04:43:55 PM »
Of course - you did say you are a domestic goddess.  ;)
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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2005, 01:45:59 PM »
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Yeah, and I will probably have to clean it ;D


Hey, that's the divine right of monarchs, you know. ;D
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« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2005, 10:50:52 AM »
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Yes, Henry left his son a financially secure relam that Henry VIII had bankrupt within a matter of years . . .  >:(




it is still a mistery to me why henry 8th was so popular...
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« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2005, 10:51:39 AM »
I agree. He was a total tyrant.
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Re: Henry VII
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2005, 01:34:39 PM »
True but around the time he started to court Anne Boleyn he was a very handsome man. He was compared to his grandfather Edward IV who was also "god like" and handsome. Its no wonder he aged into a bitter, sour old tyrant when his bloated, abused body gave up on him.
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« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2005, 01:39:13 PM »


When he flirted with Anne for the first times, he already had that horrible ulcer, didn't he? At least I think I can remember reading that it was starting to appear. I suppose that all the stress caused by the Divorce issue led him to become an obese person!
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« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2005, 01:42:27 PM »
Perhaps they liked him because he was a larger than life character?
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« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2005, 07:33:59 AM »
apparently he was a very charismatic person, like edward 4th was... but the truth is that he didn't do much for england imo

unlike his father who was the total opposite
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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2005, 05:07:30 PM »
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apparently he was a very charismatic person, like edward 4th was... but the truth is that he didn't do much for england imo

unlike his father who was the total opposite


Henry 8 seems to me like a much more jolly type person, one who like to socialize, big feasts, that kind of thing. Hence, his obesity.

Cheap guys like Henry7 never seem to be as popular.

Take Charles I and II, for example. Charles II liked to party, flirt, and in general have a good time, while Charles I was serious and devoted to his family. The family type man doesn't seem to be as interesting as the party goer. Just look at our own Western society nowadays, hehehe.  ;)

I also have a suspicion that Henry 7 was a suspicious type monarch, too. Let's face it; he was always worried about any possible Yorkist revolts against him; he faced at least two.

So mi guess he just wasn't so much a warm, fuzzy type character. ;)
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