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Offline katzie

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Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« on: August 07, 2005, 09:53:49 PM »
Hi guys,
im new to this forum and im doing a essay for skool about eleanor. i was wondering if you could tell me if you know who she married and how old she was when she married (if she did). if you could email the info to me it would be much appreciated!
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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2005, 10:25:45 PM »
I don't know if you'll find much info on her.  Born 1318, died 22 apr 1355, married in 1332 Reynald Duke of Gueldres.  She had at least 2 sons.  Anything else, you will have to do the research yourself. ;)
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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2005, 12:30:08 AM »
How on earth did you get THAT subject?  Was it assigned to you?  Can you find a different person to write about?  There is SOOO little information about her.....

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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2005, 02:19:44 AM »
Hi Katzie. This is all I have at the moment; Eleanor,born 18th June 1318 at Woodstock Palace, Oxford. Married Reginald II Count of Gueldres and Zutphen (died 1343) in May, 1332 at Nimeguen, Gueldres, and had issue.
1) Reginald III count of Gueldres(1334-1371). He married Mary,daughter of John III Duke of Brabant.
2) Edward Count of Gueldres(1336-1371).He married Katherine, daughter of Albert, Duke of Holland and Hainault.
There were 4 other children but these are thought to be the offspring of Reginald and his first wife.
Eleanor died 22nd April,1355 at Deventer Abbey Gueldres where she was buried. Dry isn't it. Regards Kim.
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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 01:01:22 PM »
wow, that is a very hard subject! how much do you have to write?  :-/
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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2007, 04:09:45 AM »
Eleanor of Woodstock Born in Woodstock, Oxfordshire on 18 June 1318 to Edward II of England and Isabella of France and was named after her paternal Grandmother Eleanor of Castile, £333 was given for her churching by father. In 1324 she was taken into care by her cousin Eleanor de Clare then sent to the care of Ralph de Mothermer and Isabella de Valence with her younger sister Joan of the Tower at Pleshey. In 1325, there were negotiations between England and Castile for Eleanor to be betrothed to Alphonso V of Castile, but this fell through due to the dowry.

Eleanor was re-united with her Mother and in 1330 negotiations were made by her Mother that she and her Brother John of Eltham, Earl of Cornwall to marry a son and daughter of Philip VI of France, however they fell through also.

In May 1332 Eleanor married the reigning Count of Guelders, Reinoud II "the black" (English: Reginald), of the House of Wassenberg (born c. 1287), a marriage arranged by her mother's cousin Jeanne of Valois. The Groom, being quite dark of colour and character, was a widower with four daughters. He was known for having imprisoned his father for over six years.

As she sailed from Sandwich, her wedding trousseau included a wedding gown of Spanish cloth, caps, gloves, shoes, a bed, rare spices and loaves of sugar. She was well received in Guelders and bore her husband two sons Reinoud III "the fat" (1334-1371) and Edward of Guelders (1336-1371. However, due to her unhappy childhood, she grew nervous and eager to please her husband, who tired of her and sent her from court (1338) by pretending she had leprosy. Her husband then tried to annul the marriage.

Eleanor turned up in Court in Nijmegen though to contest the annulment, and proceeded to strip down, proving she was no leper, and thus forcing her husband to take her back. He died from a fall from his horse on 12 October 1343.

On 22 April 1355, twelve years after she became a widow, Eleanor died in poverty in a Cisterian convent aged 36, she helped rule with her son Reginald who quarrelled with her for trying to make peace with her younger son and confiscated all her lands. She was too proud to ask her Brother Edward III of England for help and was buried in Deventer Abbey. Her tomb stone had the simple inscription ELEANOR on it, however in England on the south side of Queen Philippa of Hainault's tomb in Westminster Abbey there is an image of her and her husband.

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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2007, 05:30:34 AM »
 Eleanor's Husband and a little bit more information

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"Reinald II officially succeeded his father on 9 October 1326. However, he had declared his father unfit to rule in 1316, and imprisoned him in 1318. In May 1332, now in his forties, he married Edward II's elder daughter Eleanor of Woodstock at Nijmegen. Eleanor was not yet fourteen (born June 1318). She had previously been considered as a bride for King Alfonso XI of Castile and the future King Jean II of France, so marriage to Reinald wasn't a brilliant match, especially considering her younger sister Joan was Queen of Scotland.
There was much rejoicing almost exactly a year later when Eleanor, not yet fifteen, gave birth to a son, also Reinald (born 13 May 1333). He was followed on 12 March 1336 by a second son, named Eduard after his grandfather. (The brothers quarrelled, civil war broke out, Eduard imprisoned his elder brother, who was known as 'Reinald the Fat'...family loyalty was definitely lacking in the Dukes of Gelderland.)

In 1339, the county of Gelderland was 'upgraded' to a duchy, in honour of Reinald's importance in European politics and the Hundred Years War. He died in Arnhem on 12 October 1243 and was succeeded by his elder son Reinald III. Eleanor of Woodstock died on 22 April 1355, not yet thirty-seven, and was buried in Deventer Abbey, which she'd founded. As her two sons died childless, both in 1371, two of her stepdaughters succeeded as Duchess of Gelderland.

edwardthesecond.blogspot.com/2007/04/royal-and-noble-men-of-non-english_21.html

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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 02:48:27 AM »
There are some mistakes in the Wikipedia account of Eleanor (as usual...)  ;)  She was betrothed to Alfonso XI of Castile in 1325, not Alfonso V - who died in 1027!! ;)  The £333 that Edward II paid was for the christening of her elder brother John of Eltham, not Eleanor, in 1316.  Edward II was at Woodstock with Queen Isabella at the time that Eleanor was born - they stayed there for 10 days after the birth, then travelled to Northampton for Parliament (leaving little Eleanor behind, I imagine).  And the woman Eleanor lived with from 1324, Ralph de Monthermer's wife, was not Isabella de Valence but Isabella Hastings, sister of Hugh Despenser the Younger.  Isabella de Valence was the first wife of John Hastings, second husband of Isabella Hastings (Monthermer was her third husband), and died in 1305.

Mari: thanks for quoting from my blog! :)
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Re: Edward II's daughter Eleanor
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 07:12:04 AM »
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/womeninpower/Womeninpower1300.htm

Near the bottom, there is a brief description with a picture of Eleanor (called Eleanora) on this link.