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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #285 on: February 03, 2006, 09:44:02 AM »
It is MT kissing her mother

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« Reply #286 on: February 03, 2006, 09:46:01 AM »
Beautiful! I have never seen it before!

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« Reply #287 on: February 03, 2006, 10:03:04 AM »

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« Reply #288 on: February 03, 2006, 10:33:35 AM »



Look how lovely this portrait of Louis Joseph Xavier Francois first dauphin....He looks enchanting!

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« Reply #289 on: February 03, 2006, 10:39:22 AM »
He does! A beautiful boy!

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« Reply #290 on: February 04, 2006, 05:31:15 AM »
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Oh, Sissi, thank you for posting this picture, one of my favorites of M-T. It shows her after she bravely but unsuccessfully tried to rally the troops at Bordeaux when Napoleon returned to France from his exile in Elba. She was forced to flee to the shore to take ship to England but as she did many people followed her, begging her for souvenirs. She gave them the white feathers from her hat, crying out, as the wind and the rains swirled around her: "Bring them back to me in better days, and Marie-Therese will show you that she has a good memory and has not forgotten her friends at Bordeaux!"


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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #291 on: February 04, 2006, 06:30:45 AM »
Elena tells that scene very movingly in 'Madame Royale'. M-T truly deserved Napoleon's compliment of being 'the only man in the family'!  :)
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« Reply #292 on: February 04, 2006, 09:09:52 AM »
Oh, now I am blushing!  Thank you, Eddie and Prince for your kind words!

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« Reply #293 on: March 03, 2006, 11:50:32 PM »
There are many accurate portraits of Marie Therese Charlotte as an adult still in existence;  I'm refering to oil paintings, not engravings (which can be misleading):

----Two large full length portraits at Versailles.  One in a white gown painted by Baron Gros in 1814.  Another in the red gown we've seen on this site, painted about 1824, when she became Dauphine.  These two portraits are in the Restoration Galleries, usually closed to the public.  But I made special arrangements to see them in 2002.

----A half-length seated portrait in a gold embroidered gown painted by Robert Lefevbre in 1827, now in the City Hall in La Rochelle, France.

----The portrait by Baron Gros called "The Embarkation of the duchesse d'Angouleme", now in the Bordeaux museum.

---- Two portraits once in the Bourbon collection at Frohsdorf, sold at Sothebys in 1938:  one half-length in a white gown, another one in a red gown painted by Thomas Lawrence.

----A portrait miniature painted about 1845, now in the collection of the Wurmbrand-Stuppach family.  I saw this portrait (the only one I've seen of M.T. as an elderly woman) when I visited Countess Wurmbrand in the 1989 and 1992.

----There is also a wonderful full-length portrait of M.T. as a young woman, just released from the Temple, full length, dressed in black.  One copy is in a Scottish collection, the other is in the Hermitage in Russia.

----It appears that  she was never photographed, according to sources I've checked and correspondence I have received  from the Bourbon family.

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #294 on: March 06, 2006, 09:22:22 AM »
Do you know if there is a portrati of her as a mature woman, for I have nevers een one??? ???

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #295 on: March 07, 2006, 11:38:17 AM »
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There are many accurate portraits of Marie Therese Charlotte as an adult still in existence;  I'm refering to oil paintings, not engravings (which can be misleading):

----Two large full length portraits at Versailles.  One in a white gown painted by Baron Gros in 1814.  Another in the red gown we've seen on this site, painted about 1824, when she became Dauphine.  These two portraits are in the Restoration Galleries, usually closed to the public.  But I made special arrangements to see them in 2002.

----A half-length seated portrait in a gold embroidered gown painted by Robert Lefevbre in 1827, now in the City Hall in La Rochelle, France.

----The portrait by Baron Gros called "The Embarkation of the duchesse d'Angouleme", now in the Bordeaux museum.

---- Two portraits once in the Bourbon collection at Frohsdorf, sold at Sothebys in 1938:  one half-length in a white gown, another one in a red gown painted by Thomas Lawrence.

----A portrait miniature painted about 1845, now in the collection of the Wurmbrand-Stuppach family.  I saw this portrait (the only one I've seen of M.T. as an elderly woman) when I visited Countess Wurmbrand in the 1989 and 1992.

----There is also a wonderful full-length portrait of M.T. as a young woman, just released from the Temple, full length, dressed in black.  One copy is in a Scottish collection, the other is in the Hermitage in Russia.

----It appears that  she was never photographed, according to sources I've checked and correspondence I have received  from the Bourbon family.

There is a portrait of Madame Royale in the wonderful Bowes museum in the North of England.This vast third empire style museum crammed with works of art is on the edge of the small market town of Barnard Castle,County Durham and was originally built by Josephine Bowes the french wife of the local grandee John Bowes an illegitimate son (and heir to huge estates) of the 10th Earl of Strathmore and thus a distant relative of the Queen Mother.

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #296 on: March 08, 2006, 04:38:50 PM »
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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #297 on: March 13, 2006, 03:47:47 PM »
  I have heard a lot of things about the supose substitution of Marie Therese! Quite frankly I do not believe in it! Everybody is entail to have their own opinion but if you ask me, I find it kind of hard for a number of a reason!
  In a way it would have been easier to substitute the young king, who was younger, and politically more important.
   MT was older, (your face and figure change more as a child then as a grown up).
  However I found that during her like time she was black mailed by her ancient sous gouvernante Madame de Soucy and a doctor.
  This lady knew something about MT and after asking "gently for money" she completely black mail her.

  Does any of you know something about that story...

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #298 on: March 13, 2006, 04:04:38 PM »
Her life is unfortunately not cristal clear, I believe that she is a very complexe personage! She is quite hard to define.
 I know she went through a lot of traumas but still for instance why would she not want an autopsie???

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #299 on: March 14, 2006, 05:46:19 AM »
Having seen numerous times what an autopsy entails and knowing what they do to you when they embalm you, I do not blame poor MT for not wanting to be autopsied!!!