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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2006, 04:16:29 PM »
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LOL! You are funny! There are many things I don't know; I could keep researching this family forever. I would like to know more about what really happened with Karl.


Keep researching, we depend on you.  ;D ;D Seriously though, this is a wonderful topic and thanks sooooo much to those - especially elena_maria, Eddieboy, Sissi, Kora and Agneschen - who have contributed to it recently.  ;)
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« Reply #166 on: January 14, 2006, 04:18:56 PM »
Thanks also to you, Prince, for being such a gentleman!

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« Reply #167 on: January 14, 2006, 04:22:24 PM »
Always a pleasure, love to learn more about Therese!  :D

BTW, which side of her family do you think she resembled?
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« Reply #168 on: January 14, 2006, 04:24:31 PM »
If you want, I can send here these letters (Marie-Antoinette and Axel´s), but not today, but tomorrow, because I must translate it.
These letters (without one) was censored by one of Axel´s family member.

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« Reply #169 on: January 14, 2006, 04:24:32 PM »
Yes i second that! Thank you Elena and Prince & others, this thread is extremely interesting!! I agree the family is so fascinating!!!
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« Reply #170 on: January 14, 2006, 04:29:23 PM »
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If you want, I can send here these letters (Marie-Antoinette and Axel´s), but not today, but tomorrow, because I must translate it.
These letters (without one) was censored by one of Axel´s family member.


Please do!  :D :D
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« Reply #171 on: January 14, 2006, 04:29:59 PM »
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Yes i second that! Thank you Elena and Prince & others, this thread is extremely interesting!! I agree the family is so fascinating!!!


I've done little, but Elena certainly deserves thanks, and you too Eddieboy!  ;)
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« Reply #172 on: January 14, 2006, 04:30:21 PM »
I want to thank you all  for making this forum an extremely interesting and unique place!! This is a reallly gift to me :-*

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« Reply #173 on: January 14, 2006, 04:33:50 PM »
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I want to thank you all  for making this forum an extremely interesting and unique place!! This is a reallly gift to me :-*


Heehee, this thread is giving off some very good vibes tonight.  ;D ;D Glad you like it here Kora.  ;)
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« Reply #174 on: January 14, 2006, 04:53:21 PM »
Some time ago, I've found a book about Marie-Therese,  it is free to read, and you can find it here
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/wormeley/princess/princess.html

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« Reply #175 on: January 14, 2006, 04:58:14 PM »
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If you want, I can send here these letters (Marie-Antoinette and Axel´s), but not today, but tomorrow, because I must translate it.
These letters (without one) was censored by one of Axel´s family member.


Why don't you start a new topic thread for that? That would be interesting. I always heard that Fersen destroyed the original letters from the queen but made 'copies' in his own hand. (She wrote to him extensively during their captivity, calling him"Monsieur Rignon" for the sake of the censors in case they read her mail.  He was trying to arrange an escape for them and the King of Sweden was trying to help, too.) And then a relative of Fersen's scribbled out portions of the letters and  his diaries in which he recounted his adventures around Paris with various ladies.

Are those the letters you are referring to?

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« Reply #176 on: January 14, 2006, 05:00:12 PM »
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Always a pleasure, love to learn more about Therese!  :D

BTW, which side of her family do you think she resembled?


I think she resembled the Bourbon side for the most part, with a few of her mother's attributes, such as the swanlike neck and Habsburg jaw.

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« Reply #177 on: January 14, 2006, 05:04:24 PM »
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Some time ago, I've found a book about Marie-Therese,  it is free to read, and you can find it here
http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/wormeley/princess/princess.html



Oh, Kora, this is a treasure! Thank you!! That is the best picture of Mme de Lamballe that I have ever seen!

Can you find a picture of Archduke Karl von Habsburg, brother of Francis II?

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Re: Princess Marie-Therese, Duchesse d'Angouleme
« Reply #178 on: January 14, 2006, 05:30:45 PM »
Karl von Habsburg (1771-1847)


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« Reply #179 on: January 14, 2006, 05:31:54 PM »
Thank you, Kora. You are a gift to us!!