Charles I and family

[Prince_Lieven]

In the words of the day, Charles I's daughter Anne died of 'a suffocating catarrh with inflammatory disposition of the lungs.'

[Prince_Lieven]

Minette was apprently a beauty, and women certainly found Charles attractive (he had the dark, Latin looks of his Medici ancestors). There is a portrait of James in which he looks very handsome but I can't find it!!  

[Prince_Lieven]

This isn't the one I meant, but it's a nice one . . .

[umigon]

Henry was also seen as a handsome man in his times!



Yes, I suppose all of their children were beautiful!

[Prince_Lieven]

Charles I as he wanted the world to see him - sternly but nobly presiding over his family:

[Prince_Lieven]

Umigon, the Henry pic is beautiful - I have never seen it before. Thanks.  

[Prince_Lieven]

If anyone is interested, here are all of Charles II's illegitimate children:

By Margaret de Carteret
-James de Carteret (1646-1667). Charles was 16 when he was born!  :oWe were talking about Mary II being sexually active at about 15, well her uncle certainly was!

By Lucy Walter
-James Scott, Duke of Monmouth (1649-1685). He always claimed that his parents were married, but never produced any evidence.Married Anne Scott, heiress of the dukes of Buccleuch and had issue, who I will list later.

-Mary Stuart (1658-1693). It is possible Charles was not her father.

By Elizabeth Killigrew, Viscountess Shannon
-Charlotte Jemima Henrietta Maria FitzRoy (1650-1684). She married William Paston, Earl of Yarmouth, and had isuue I will list later. I bet the pious Queen Henrietta Maria loved the fact that this bastard had her names!

By Catherine Pegge
-Charles FitzCharles, 1st Earl of Plymouth (1657-1680). He married Lady Briget Osborne.

-Catherine FitzCharles (1658-1759).She was a nun and lived to be 101!!!!

By  Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland
-Charles Fitzroy, 1st Duke of Southampton (1662-1730). He married Anne Poultney and had issue, to be listed later.

-Sir Henry Fitzroy, 1st Duke of Grafton (1663-1690). He married Lady Isabella Bennet, Countess of Arlington and has issue.

-Lady Charlotte Fitzroy (1664-1718). She married Edward Lee, Earl of Lichfield and had children.

-George Fitzroy, 1st Duke of Northumberland (1665-1716).  He married Mary Dutton.

By Eleanor ('Nell') Gywn
-Charles Beauclerk, 1st Duke of St. Albans (1760-1726). He married Lady Diana de Vere and had issue.

-James Beauclerk, Lord Beauclerk (1671-1680).

By Louise Renée de Penancoët de Kérouaille, Duchess of Portsmouth
-Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond (1672-1723). He married Anne Budenell and had issue.

By Moll Davies
-Mary Tudor (1673-1726). She married Edward Ratcliffe,  Earl of Derwentwater and had issue.  

[Prince_Lieven]

And now, Charles II's grandchildren!

-children of the Duke of Monmouth and Anne Buccleuch
1. Lady Isabella Scott. I can't find her birth date but she died in 1748.

2. Charles Scott, Earl of Doncaster (1672-1673)

3. James Scott, Earl of Dalkeith (1674-1704)

4. Lady Anne Scot (1675-1685)

5. Henry Scott, Earl of Deloraine (1676-1730).

6. Lord Francis Scott (1678-79)

7. Lady Charlotte Scott (1683)

-children of Lady Charlotte Fitzroy and William Paston, Earl of Yarmouth
1. Lady Charlotte Paston (I can't find any dates or further details)

2. Lady Rebecca Paston (again no dates but she married Sir John Holland)

3. Charles Paston (1673-1718)

4. William Paston (1682-1711)

-children of Charles Fitzroy, Duke of Southampton and Anne Poultney
1. Lady Grace Fitzroy (1697-1763). She married Henry Vane, Earl of Darlington.

2. William Fitzroy, Duke of Cleveland (1698-1774)

3. Lord Charles Fitzroy (1699-1723)

4. Lord Henry Fitzroy (1701-1708)

5. Lady Barbara Fitzroy (no dates but died unmarried)

6. Lady Anne Fitzroy (no dates)

-children of Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Grafton and Lady Isabella Bennet, Countess of Arlington.
1. Charles Fitzroy, Duke of Grafton (1683-1757)

-children of Lady Charlotte Fitzroy and Edward Lee, Earl of Lichfield
1. Lady Barbara Lee (no dates; married Sir George Browne)
2. Hon. Charles Lee (died 1708 unmarried)
3. Vice-Admiral Hon. Fitzroy Henry Lee   (d. 1720)
4. Lady Elizabeth Lee (no dates)
5. Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1721). Married Benedict Calvert, Lord Baltimore.
6. Charles Lee, Viscount Quarendon (1680)
7. Edward Henry Lee, Viscount Quarendon (1681-1713)
8. George Henry Lee, 2nd Earl of Lichfield (1690-1742)
9. Captain Hon. James Lee   (1691-1711)
10. Robert Lee, 4th Earl of Lichfield  (1706-1766)
11. Anne Lee (1716)

-children of Charles Beauclerk, Duke of St Albans and Lady Diana de Vere
1.Charles Beauclerk, 2nd Duke of St. Albans (1696-1751)
2.Lady Diana Beauclerk (1697)
3.Lord William Beauclerk (1698-1732)
4.Admiral Vere Beauclerk, 1st Baron Vere of Hanworth (1699-1781)
5.Colonel Lord Henry Beauclerk (1701-1761)
6.Lord Sydney Beauclerk (1703-1744
7.Lord George Beauclerk (1704-1768
8.Lord Seymour Beauclerk (1708)
9.Rt. Rev. Lord James Beauclerk (1709-1787
10.Lord Aubrey Beauclerk (1711-1740)
11.Lady Mary Beauclerk (1713)
12.Lady Anne Beauclerk  (1716)

-children of Charles Lennox, Duke of Richmond and Anne Budenell
1. Lady Louisa Lennox (1694-1717). She married James Berkely, Earl of Berkely.

2. Charles Lennox, Duke of Richmond (1701-1750)

3. Lady Anne Lennox (1703-1789). She married William van Keppel, Earl of Albermarle. His grandfather was a favourite of William III, and Alice Keppel's husband George was descended from this marriage.

-children of Mary Tudor and the earl of Derwent-w-a-ter
1. Francis Ratcliffe (1693-1746)

2. Lady Mary Ratcliffe (dates unknown)

3. James, Earl of you-know-what (!) (1689-1716)

4. Charles Ratcliffe (dates unknown)

[bell_the_cat]

I really enjoy lists like these!

The Earl of Derwent-water was executed for his part in the 1715 Jacobite rising. His brother Charles was executed for activities connected to the '45! (maybe that's why the name is censored!)

Have you got the illegitimate children of James?

[Prince_Lieven]

Your wish is my command! The illegitimate children of James II!

-with Arabella Churchill
1. Lady Henrietta Fitzjames (1667-1730). She married Henry Waldergrave, Baron Waldergrave of Chewton.

2. James Fitzjames, Duke of Berwick (1670-1734). He married  firstly Lady Honora Burke and second Lady Anne Bulkeley.

3. Henry Fitzjames, Duke of Albermarle (1673-1702). He married Marie Gabrielle d'Audibert.

4. Lady Arabella Fitzjames (1674-1704). She was a nun with the name of Ignatia.

-with Katherine Sedley, Countess of Dorchester
1. Lady Catherine Darnley (1681-1743). She married firstly James Annelessy, Earl of Anglesea and secondly John Sheffield, Duke of Buckingham.

2. James Darnley (1684-85)

-unknown mother
1. Charles Darnley (died very young).

[umigon]

And this is how the Spanish Duchess of Alba (very famous here in Spain) is related to the Stuarts through James Fitzjames Stuart, son of James II:

1. James II Stuart (1633-1701). Had an adulterous affair with Arabella Churchill (1648-1730), sister to the Duke of Marlborough from which:

2. James Fitzjames Stuart (1670-1734), Duke of Berwick. Married firstly Honora de Burgh (1674-169 in 1695. His second wife was Anne Bulkeley (1681-1751), with whom he married in 1700. From his first wife he had:

3. James Francis Fitzjames Stuart (1696-1736), Duke of Berwick. Married Catalina Ventura Colón de Portugal y Ayala (1690-1739) in 1716. They had:

4. Jacobo Francisco Fitzjames Stuart y Colón de Portugal (1718-1785), Duke of Berwick. He married María Teresa de Silva y Álvarez de Toledo (1716-1790), sister of the XII Duke of Alba, in 1738. They had:

5. Carlos Fernando Pascual Januario Fitzjames Stuart y de Silva (1752-1787), Duke of Berwick. He married Caroline Augusta Maria of Stolberg-Gedern (1755-182 in 1771. Caroline was the younger sister of Louisa, wife of Bonnie Prince Charlie (Charles Edward Stuart). They had:

6. Jacobo Felipe Carlos Pascual Cayetano Fitzjames Stuart y de Stolberg-Gedern (1773-1794), Duke of Berwick. He married María Teresa Fernández de Silva y Palafox (1772-181 in 1790. They had:

7. Carlos Miguel Fitzjames Stuart y Fernández de Silva (1794-1835), Duke of Alba and 14th Duke of Alba since 1802. He married Maria Rosalia de Ventimiglia (1798-186 in 1817. They had:

8. Jacobo Luis Francisco Pablo Rafael Fitzjames Stuart y de Ventimiglia (1821-1881), 15th  Duke of Alba and  Duke of Berwick. He married María Francisca de Sales de Guzmán Palafox y Kirkpatrick of Closeburn (1825-1860), sister of Empress Eugenia of France, in 1844. They had:

9. Carlos María Isabel Fitzjames Stuart y de Guzmán Palafox (1849-1901), 16th Duke of Alba. He married María del Rosario Falcó y Osorio (1854-1904) in 1877. They had:

10. Jacobo María del Pilar Carlos Manuel Fitzjames Stuart y Falcó (1878-1953), 17th Duke of Alba. He married María del Rosario de Silva y Guturbay (1900-1934) in 1920. They had:

11. Cayetana (María del Rosario Cayetana) Fitzjames Stuart y de Silva (1926-), 18th and current Duchess of Alba. She married firstly Pedro Luis Martínez de Irujo y Artazcoz (1919-1972) in 1948. Her second husband was Jesús Aguirre y Ortiz de Zárate (1934-2001), with whom she married in 1978 and with whom she had no children. With her first husband she had:

12. Carlos Fitzjames Stuart y Martínez de Irujo (1949-), who married Matilde de Solís y Martínez-Campos (1963-) in 1988. They are divorced, although they have two sons: Fernando (1990-) and Carlos (1991-).  

[bell_the_cat]

I knew Umigon would like this connection!

Lady Catharine's waxwork death effigy is on show at Westminster Abbey.

Is number 6 the woman who famously posed for Goya?

[Prince_Lieven]

Thanks for that umigon! And who says the Stuarts weren't prolific? They were - but not with their wives!  

[umigon]

And with their wives also! Sadly, most of their legitimate children didn't survive!

[bell_the_cat]

Catharine Sedley was no oil painting. Charles used to say that his brother had her "by way of penance".