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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2005, 03:17:24 AM »
Is not Donha ? I mean the Duchess of BraganÇa. she remained single and had arround a suite of artists, poets, painters. She was closed friend of Juana de Austria. there is a little pic on Sapo genea portugal, but too little :-/ I adore your country!!
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2005, 04:56:19 AM »
No...Donha does not even exist...the letters 'nh' express the same sound as in Spanish 'ñ'...But in Portuguese it's Dom/Dona, while in Spanish it's Don/Doña...In Italian it's Don/Donna...
Dona is pronounced: Dôna (the O is closed as in French 'eau')...

Sometimes there is also confusion with names...Enrique is Spanish, in Portuguese its Henrique, but one error that is quite common it's in the name Nuno (that's correct Portuguese), it is only Nuño if the person is Spanish...Look at the father of present Duke of Bragança...I've seen again and again people writing Duarte Nuño...but he was Duarte Nuno...

Of course, I too make many mistakes in other languages... ;)
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2005, 11:59:28 AM »
Hi guys, I hope this hasn't been brought up before. Does anyone know anything about Maria of Portugal, daughter of Manuel I and his third wife Eleonora of Austria? She lived 1521-1577 but never married - was she a nun perhaps?

Thanks in advance!  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2005, 01:21:25 PM »
Helle Prince Lieven  :)

Infanta Dona Maria was never a nun. She was probably the wealthiest princess of her time, which was the main reason for her to remain single. She was extraordinarily rich. She had received a great inheritance from her father and from her mother (which after her birth Maria met just once, just before Leonor's death). She is one of Portugal's best known Infantas, because she was one of the last Avis flowers and a great protectrice of the arts and litterature...

The future King Felipe II of Spain wanted to mantain tradition by marrying her after he got widower from his 1st wife Infta Maria Manuela of Portugal, Maria's nice, but Charles V wanted him to marry the older Queen Mary I of England and Ireland, wich he did obeying his papa. After this unfortunate marriage, Charles V turned to Maria, but now she was the one not wanting to marry, especially his son...And Portugal's government did support her on this decision, because if she married a great, great, great amount of money would leave Portugal...

She remained single, dying in the reign of her great-nephew King Sebastian.

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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2005, 01:57:03 PM »
Thanks Bernardino!  :D

Was her relationship with Leonor very bad? Is the reason they only met once because Leonor was whisked off to Paris to be the queen of France?

Who inherited her money?

Thanks a lot! :)
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2005, 04:23:21 PM »
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she was one of the last Avis flowers and a great protectrice of the arts and litterature...


She was also very well-educated and inteligent. The greatest Portuguese poet, Luís de Camões, called her "Infanta da Luz" (Princess of Light). Some people even think that Camões was in love with her.

D. Maria was homaged, many years ago, when her portrait was used in a 50$00 ESC (0.25 euros) Portuguese bank note:




(I have one like this in my power!  :D )
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2005, 05:07:16 PM »
Thanks Grand Duke.  :) She looks very pretty. BTW, I think Manuel already had a daughter called Maria by his second wife, Maria of Aragon - was this unusual, two Marias?
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2005, 05:27:32 PM »
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I think Manuel already had a daughter called Maria by his second wife, Maria of Aragon - was this unusual, two Marias?


You are right, but the 1st Maria (1511-13) died with only 2 years-old. So when the 2nd one was born (1521) there weren't 2 Marias in the family at the same time.
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2005, 05:38:16 PM »
Thanks Grand Duke. Yes, I've heard it was pretty normal when an older child of the same name had died.
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