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Olga_Anne

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What kind of student?
« on: August 13, 2005, 02:16:09 PM »
How did Tatiana do in school? Was she smart like Olga. Average like Maria. Smart but lazy like Anastasia.  ???

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2005, 02:54:32 PM »
Tatiana was clever but really just dutiful.  She was a good student but not a spectacular one; she didn't put all that much effort into her work but got it done.  Generally unlike Maria and Anastasia she didn't have any major grammar/spelling issues once she was older (Hikaru posted in some other thread that she and Olga's written Russian was perfect, no errors, etc).

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2005, 01:36:53 PM »
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Generally unlike Maria and Anastasia she didn't have any major grammar/spelling issues once she was older (Hikaru posted in some other thread that she and Olga's written Russian was perfect, no errors, etc).


 I'm quite surprised at the fact that any of them managed to write properly, since their mother had terrible grammar and spelling and almost always wrote in shorthand.  :P ::)
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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2005, 02:52:17 PM »
I did'nt know Maria had spelling problems. I've read that the way they (OTMA) talked was childish because they did'nt get out. Even Olga.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2005, 04:34:26 PM »
Maybe their topics of converstaion weren't as 'sophisticated' or 'grown-up' and 'worldly' as society ladies and others might have expected of them. I know we don't speak as we write, but Olga's 1916 diary doesn't sound like that of an immature adult.
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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 12:34:15 AM »
Um if you read N and A a life long passion there is some letters to Alix from Tatiana that has some poor spelling and grammer.  Alix sent letters back scolding Tatiana for her poor spelling and grammer.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 12:56:54 AM »
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Um if you read N and A a life long passion there is some letters to Alix from Tatiana that has some poor spelling and grammer.  Alix sent letters back scolding Tatiana for her poor spelling and grammer.


You mean grammar. :)

When she was older she didn't have many problems with it in English.  In Russian apparently her grammar and spelling were perfect.  The English letters in A Lifelong Passion that are the ones that have bad grammar and spelling are from when she was about, what, ten to fifteen?  Still not too shabby since she was learning how to read and write in Russian, English, German and French!  I'd go nuts.

The letters scolding on spelling were actually to Maria--who always had awful spelling and grammar.  So did Anastasia.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 10:23:25 AM »
actualy, she only learned a little German, Alix gave lessons to her and Olga, but it was so little that I don't think it counts as a whole other language.
French started at the age of 8 (Olga at 10). I don't know when they started to speak English, but I heared it was the language they used when talking together in private (the whole IF). I thought they spoke it to Alix, but I'm not sure.

When you start languages at a young age, it's not that difficult. I'm bilingual from home (Polish-Dutch), we spoke English at home when I was about 6-8, started French at 10, then German at 15 (which I never learned very good) that I replaced by Spanish at 17.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2005, 10:27:50 AM »

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French started at the age of 8 (Olga at 10). I don't know when they started to speak English, but I heared it was the language they used when talking together in private (the whole IF). I thought they spoke it to Alix, but I'm not sure.


They alternated between Russian and English from what I gathered, speaking Russian with Nicholas and Alexei and English with Alexandra. I wouldn't be surprised if they used bits of both languages when speaking between themselves.
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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2005, 12:41:47 PM »
They had German teachers up til WWI, I believe, and during their captivity Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia learned German as there were notebooks of theirs found for 1917-18 in German somewhere.  Look at Maria Nikolaevna's expenses on the main page here... she had a lot of German lessons!  From what I gather only Olga could really speak it passably but it still wasn't very good.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2005, 04:09:38 PM »
Thank you Lannie,
I'm realy interested where you found that information.
I read that neither Maria or Anastasia had German lessons en Tatiana and Olga just a little.
Do you have any more information about what the grandduchesses studied? I've read that through Alice and Victoria, Alix had a very good education, even better than some other girls in those days but that unfortunately Alix  didn't pass it on to her own daughters.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2005, 04:45:42 PM »
The girls studied music, English, French, German, and Russian (the languages themselves and literature, though I don't know how advanced they got with German; they could read in Russian, English and French), mathematics though didn't get very far as they didn't understand basic principles of money etc which were used as examples, history, art (drawing, painting, etc), dancing, and had religion classes.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2005, 11:40:28 AM »
Tatiana was practical, the type of person who learns more from the world than from books. She was intelligent but not in a intellectual way. She seems to have done well, but not spectacular in her formal studies. She did just as much as she had to, and then she started to deal with real life more. If she had had to have more formal education to get by in life, as so many people have to do today, she would have done it and been passable. I don't think she would ever have enjoyed it though. All the records are is that she was dutiful, did a decent job, but no more than that.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 12:10:22 AM »
I'm curious of how she plays piano. They say her knowledge of it is just dry and academic.

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Re: What kind of student?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 12:27:37 AM »
From what I've heard, she was good at the piano but did not put her heart into it like Olga.

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