Grand Duke Konstantin (KR) and his family- discussion and pictures, Part I

[cimbrio]

Thanks for the photos, keep them coming.
I feel very sorry for this particular branch of the family. The Konstantinovichi (and more accurately, Konstantin Nikolaievicha nd his son KR) fathered several children yet today there are no living male members descended from them. I'm not trying to sound like a chauvinist! It must have been awful to have survived the Revolution, having survived so many deaths of your nearest relatives. Here is a list fo thsoe who died tragically, descendants of Konstantin Nikolaievich:

-Grand Duke Dimitri Konstantinovich (1860-1919) was shot in the Petropavlosk Fortress with three other Romanovs.

-Ivan Konstantinovich (1886-1918) was thrown down a minepit with several of his brothers and relatives. He left a widow, Princess Helena of Serbia, and two children, one of which (Catherine) still lives. His son Vsevolod married thrice but left no issue.

-Konstantin Konstantinovich (1891-1918) was the latter's brother and died with him. He left no children although in one thread (I think it was he anyway) it was suggested he wanted to marry Princess Elisabeta of Romania (who later married George II of Greece), but his sister-in-law Helena of Serbia put him off the idea, probably because of her own political ideas concerning the Balkans.

-Oleg Konstantinovich (1892-1914) died on November 15th 1914 in a Hospital in Vilna (Vilnius) after having been wounded in WWI. He was the first of many Romanovs to die for their country. It was rumoured (a stiory started by an American newspaper) that Prince Igor ahd contracted an illegal marriage with an unkown woman before the war.

-Igor Konstantinovich (1894-1918) was murdered with his two brothers and other relatives in Alapaievsk. He left no issue.

We could also consider the deaths of other members of the Konstantinovichi branch as "tragic" in their own way.

-Vera Konstantinovna (1905-1905) died prematurely aged exactly 2 months.

-George Konstantinovich (1903-1938) died in New York after undergoing surgery related with tuberculosis ( ? ).

-Konstantin of Bragation-Moukhransky (1889-1915) was married to Princess Tatiana. He died in WWI. His distant relative Leonida married Grand Duke Vladimir Kyrillovich.

The unknown Grand Duke Nicholas Konstantinovich (1850-1918) apparently didn't die a violent death and was even honoured by the local soviet with a grand funeral. However, his issue did endure difficult lives:

-Artemi Nikolaievich (1881-1919), who didn't leave children, died during the Russian Civil War.

Another son (I forget which one right now) died of a drug overdose while visiting his mother, one of Grand Duke Nicholas's lovers.
A son and a daughter were schizzophreniacs.

I don't believe this was ever a happy family. Forgive any inaccuracies or mistakes, I wrote this from memory

[Annie]

-Vera Konstantinovna (1905-1905) died prematurely aged exactly 2 months.

Vera lived a long time, 1906-2001. It was Natalia who died in infancy in 1905. (see my list posted above)

But thanks for your list too, you mentioned some things I left out.

[Annie]

I hate smileys :8

I found that out the hard way but still have to edit sometimes when I forget that posting an 8 followed by ) always = the sunglasses smilie. Since so many people sadly died in a year ending in 8, 1918, it happens a lot. You can avoid it by leaving an extra space between the 8 and the ).

[cimbrio]

I realised too late I'd posted Vera in the place of Natalya but I knew someone would notice it so I didn't bother correcting it I can dissable smileys anyway before posting but if one forgets it looks so ridiculous sometimes

[grandduchessella]

Here's what I wrote in the Hesse Curse. Some of the info will be redundant but it was easier to just post the whole.

I guess this could be true but oh they seemed to suffer one blow after the other and the dates are very eerie.

If you look at a single family through 3 generations (such as Alice--her children--her grandchildren) and find a comparable situation there are probably similar situations.

I generation:
Constantine (1827-1892); m. 1848 Alexandra of Saxe-Altenburg (1830-1911)
II Generation
1) Nicholas (1850-1918) This son was basically lost to the family due to his numerous transgressions.  
2) Olga (1851-1926); m. 1867 George I of Greece (assassinated 1913)
3) Vera (1854-1912); m.1874 Eugen, Duke of Württemberg –widowed after 3 years
4) Constantine (1858-1915); m.1884 Elisabeth of Saxe-Altenburg (1865-1927) (this branch would be especially hard hit)
5) Dimitri (1860-executed 1919) no descendants
6) Viatcheslav (1862-1879) no descendants
III Generation
1)  Artemy Iskander (1883-k.in Russian Civil War 1919) –son of Nicholas C.
2) Alexander Iskander (1889-1957); m. 1912 (div) Olga Rogovskya (disappeared in USSR)
3) Constantine I Greece—vilified, suffered assassination attempt (fire set), exile—recalled—exiled—died early
4) Alexandra Greece (GDss Paul) died age 21 after giving premature birth to 2nd child; her widower would be executed in 1919
5) Marie Greece —husband GD George executed by Bolsheviks
6) Olga Greece (Apr 1880-Nov 1880)
7) Ivan C (1886- executed Alapaevsk 1918); m.1911 Helena of Serbia (1884-1962)
Gabriel C (1887-1955); m.1917 Antonia Nesterovskya; m.2d  1951 Irina Kurakina (no descendants)
9) Tatiana C (1890-1979); m.1st 1911 Constantine Bagration-Moukhransky (1889-KIA 1915) leaving her w/2 small children; m.2d 1921 Alexander Korochenzov (1877-1922)
10) Constantine C (1891-executed at Alapaevsk 1918)
11) Oleg C (1892-KIA 1914 )
12) Igor  C (1894-executed Alapaevsk 1918)
13) George  C (1903-1938)
14) Natalia C (Mar 1905-May 1905)
15) Vera C (1906-2001)
16) Karl Eugen Wurttemberg  (Apr 1875-1875) –only son
17) Olga (1876-1932); m.1898 Maximilian Schaumburg-Lippe (Olga was widowed after 6 years)

So within children, children-in-law, grandchildren & grandchildren-in-law there was a lot of early deaths, violent deaths and I didn't even count illnesses and unhappy marriages.

[rachel5a]

 Tamara Lempicka "GD Gavril Konstantinovich"

[Rosamund]

The unknown Grand Duke Nicholas Konstantinovich (1850-1918) apparently didn't die a violent death and was even honoured by the local soviet with a grand funeral. However, his issue did endure difficult lives:

-Artemi Nikolaievich (1881-1919), who didn't leave children, died during the Russian Civil War.

Another son (I forget which one right now) died of a drug overdose while visiting his mother, one of Grand Duke Nicholas's lovers.
A son and a daughter were schizzophreniacs.

I don't believe this was ever a happy family. Forgive any inaccuracies or mistakes, I wrote this from memory)

Have you any more details about this family, other than those that are found in 'Romanov Autumn'?

[jackie3]

Well I think it ironic that for a branch of the family that suffered so much and lost so many members of the family to murder both in WWI, the Civil War and killed by the Communists that is one of their members who is the last surviving Romanov born before the Revolution (Princess Ekaterina) and who has lived to see the Communists fall and the two-headed Imperial Eagle and the flag of Peter the Great return as symbols of the Russian state. Somehow its fitting that it would a  Konstantovichi who would survive to be the last.

[Annie]

Well I think it ironic that for a branch of the family that suffered so much and lost so many members of the family to murder both in WWI, the Civil War and killed by the Communists that is one of their members who is the last surviving Romanov born before the Revolution (Princess Ekaterina) and who has lived to see the Communists fall and the two-headed Imperial Eagle and the flag of Peter the Great return as symbols of the Russian state. Somehow its fitting that it would a  Konstantovichi who would survive to be the last.

Oh that is strangely ironic! Good points!

Thanks Ella for the info!

[Linnea]

konstantin konstantinovich

igor konstantinovich


ioann konstantinovich

[Rebecca]

I have never seen any photo of Prince Oleg Konstantinovich. It would be interesting to see one.

My interest in Royals used to be purely genealogical, but seeing all these wonderful photographs and portraits that the members post here, that has somewhat changed.  

[Lisa]

Oleg:

[Linnea]

Grand Duke Konstantin´s wife Elisabeth

[veluco]

Hello to everybody. This is my first post

I'm looking for infos on GD Oleg Constantinovich (1892-1914). I know he died in Vilnius after having been wounded in action. Does anybody know where he was wounded, in which action, what was his rank in the army.

Tks

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[Macedonsky]

I'm looking for infos on GD Oleg Constantinovich (1892-1914). I know he died in Vilnius after having been wounded in action. Does anybody know where he was wounded, in which action, what was his rank in the army.

See http://macedonsky.narod.ru/agnates/a29.html
He was cornet in the Life Guards Hussar regiment of His Imperial Majesty, see details about the battle and last days in Russian at http://otechestvo.org.ua/main/200510/1305.htm and http://xxl3.ru/kadeti/kr.htm

He was not Grand Duke but merely Prince of the Blood Imperial, as great-grandson of Nicholas I.