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« Reply #375 on: June 20, 2007, 03:57:12 AM »
Well...With QV and her children, there is awe and fear. With QA there is a kind of smothering love. While with QM, there is an absence of tenderness. Choose and pick !  ::)

Yes both women had that in common. However Beatrice had more of a fight than her niece Toria, who just gave up.

Well...The sensual style starts with the snake bracelet and goes on... ;)

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« Reply #376 on: June 20, 2007, 06:10:43 AM »
I don't think that there ia any doubt that a strong bond existed between Alix and her children; whether this bond was entirely healthy and beneficial is open to discussion.......

We have talked previously about the attitudes of QV and Alix towards their daughters in relation to their marital expectations, and I think that we agreed that, in expecting at least one daughter to remain unmarried, this was a notion shared by both, and perhaps not unique to the British RF but perhaps more of a reflection on family values of that era.

Alix and May were really so different in temperament and attitudes; this perhaps is reflected in their respective styles.  Tampa, I take your point about Alix's style being more sensual but would be grateful if you could explain this in more detail.  Would you mind?

Alix has an element of sensaul style that I would call "earthy",  Liz Taylor has it, Jackie Kennedy had it, Missy had it, Diana had it and "Fat" May Aldelaide had it too.  You can visualize these women being touched and you automatically extend your hand.  You can also visualize (or I have) these ladies at a picnic in jeans, a white T-shirt and a big fat diamond necklace with a diamond snake bracelet playing with the children, dogs and whatever looking normal with all eyes on them.  They are real to me as women in their own skin well as icons.

Queen Mary, Cookie, QEII, Ducky and QV did not have this trait,  They are pure majestic icons and are visualized in my mind as famous photographs in books to be treated as rare procleain,  one would be afraid to touch.

Wallis was somewhere in between the two groups I describe above.

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« Reply #377 on: June 20, 2007, 11:27:33 AM »
At least Louise threaten to put her head in the oven if she cannot marry Fife. So she instead of Toria got married.  :(

Which we still have not had a reference for? :) Unless GD Ella knows the reference for this particular story?
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« Reply #378 on: June 20, 2007, 04:02:24 PM »
I think is was the David Duff bio on QA. It's been ages since I read that one ... last time, that is.  ;)

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« Reply #379 on: June 20, 2007, 07:49:36 PM »
Thanks...One of the better bios on QA.  :D

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« Reply #380 on: June 20, 2007, 08:08:08 PM »
Where could I find that?

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« Reply #381 on: June 20, 2007, 08:33:56 PM »
Out of print book searches...It is not a hard book to find...I think ?  ???

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Re: Queen Alexandra (1844-1925), Part II
« Reply #382 on: June 20, 2007, 08:38:36 PM »
No, it's not too hard. I don't think it was one of the better bios though. (DD's Hessian Tapestry is his best book, in my opinion) For QA bios, Battiscombe's is probably still the best.

Duff also wrote bios on Princess Louise (Argyll) and Queen Mary.
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« Reply #383 on: June 20, 2007, 09:06:00 PM »
Well...Battiscombe's work is bit dry for my taste and a bit outdated (as far as her relationship with Dagmar goes). I think someone can do a new one on her (I heard someone already started).  ;)

I also got Duff's books on QM, The Hesse Family (I agree his best work) and Napoleon III & Eugenie... ;)

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Re: Queen Alexandra (1844-1925), Part II
« Reply #384 on: June 20, 2007, 11:34:13 PM »
Well, we can only deal with published biographies and they're all pretty outdated (except for maybe the ones in Danish) since the Danish archives weren't very open with their material when most of the bios, including the Duff one, were written. Battiscome noted that much of Alexandra's correspondence was burned by Charlotte Knollys per Alexandra's wishes. I don't find her writing dry at all but to each his own.
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« Reply #385 on: June 21, 2007, 03:42:00 AM »
Well everybody had their own tastes. I like Duff's stle better.  :)

Based on the published Danish books, a new book could be written to update everything. Not counting the info coming from Russia... ;)

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« Reply #386 on: June 21, 2007, 08:27:30 AM »
I don't mean to go off topic but are any books planned to come out soon (in the next 6 months or so) about [Victorian era]royals.  If so which ones? 

(I looked in the Books/Movies thread but that seems to concentrate on Romanovs)
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« Reply #387 on: June 21, 2007, 02:10:21 PM »
Thanks for the recommendations! I managed to find some of the books via Amazon.com! Do you recommend Duff's biography of Queen Mary or does it not match up to Pope-Hennessy's?

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« Reply #388 on: June 21, 2007, 03:04:12 PM »
Nowhere near Pope-Hennessey's in my opinion but few books are.  :) There's not really anything new in the Duff, that I can remember, and it's rather slight in comparison to the PH bio, but it's been a long time. It's way better than the Edwards bio though. Yuck. Queen Mary's another one who needs a more modern bio, I think.

Personally, I'd go PH (even though it's on the genteel side, it's one of the best-written royal bios ever) for Queen Mary and Battiscombe for Queen Alexandra.
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« Reply #389 on: June 21, 2007, 07:56:10 PM »
Agree on PH but disagree on Battiscombe. I think the Duff ones on QM and QA are really a pleasure to read and flows, unlike Battiscombe.  :(