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palatine

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #540 on: October 02, 2007, 07:27:54 PM »
Thank you so much Palatine! Very nice...how sad Marie Antoinette did not live to reclaim those Jewels.

If the pearls did belong to Marie Antoinette, I can’t help but wonder why they weren’t returned to Marie Therese, Duchesse d’Angouleme, who could have used the money that they represented, especially during her first exile from France.  Marie Therese lived in England at times, so it would have been easy for the pearls to be handed over to her safely.  She would have been entitled to have them since she was the only surviving child of Marie Antoinette. 

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Eric_Lowe

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #541 on: October 03, 2007, 03:36:28 AM »
She already got the diamonds from Leonard the hairdresser.  :)


Mari

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« Reply #543 on: October 13, 2007, 02:59:23 AM »
Thank you for the letters in French.  Here is her last letter to Madame Elizabeth in English. It is very moving and stained with her tears. Robespierre kept it!

http://teaattrianon.blogspot.com/2007/05/last-letter-of-marie-antoinette.html

Eric_Lowe

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« Reply #544 on: October 14, 2007, 10:20:52 PM »
He is one sick bastard...This Robespierre...glad he went the way of the King & Queen.  >:(

Mari

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #545 on: October 16, 2007, 05:35:33 AM »
Yes, the list of People that became active in the Blood shedding are incredible. I remember a History Professor talking about one of the Terror's Committee Members who was addicted to Death Saint- Just and so named the Angel of Death. I also remember the Marquis de Sade was let out of the Bastille during the Storming of the Bastille and active.
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Axel_von_Fersen

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« Reply #546 on: October 16, 2007, 05:51:43 PM »
  I hope this words - its a picture from the stuart gallery  http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com/frenchfigures.php

helenazar

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« Reply #547 on: October 16, 2007, 05:57:41 PM »
http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com/frenchfigures.php

Wow this is very interesting, thank you for the link! They also have English historical figures and others.

Axel_von_Fersen

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« Reply #548 on: October 16, 2007, 06:08:20 PM »
Helen A - you are most welcome.  Indeed they do - lots more French royals and many English royals :)

Here is another image from the Stuart galley that I like – the Queen as shepherdess.



And below are two very sad pictures of Marie Antoinette - apropos to this date, October 16th.


Marie Antoinette, as Widow Capet, on trial for her life – Oct 14-15, 1793.
The Stuart Gallery caption:

“HOW THE MIGHTY FALL!
"Following the execution of her husband Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette wore widow’s weeds. She was given the name “Widow Capet” from the name of the medieval dynasty which ruled France and spawned the succeeding royal lines. This portrait has her dressed as she appeared at trial.”


The last above, Marie Antoinette en route to her execution on the guillotine.
On this date 214 years ago – Oct 16, 1793.

Here again is a link to this gallery where these pictures and the above caption came from
http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com/frenchfigures.php


Axel

helenazar

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #549 on: October 16, 2007, 06:18:53 PM »
This guy is really good!

Axel_von_Fersen

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #550 on: October 16, 2007, 06:45:00 PM »
Helen, this guy is indeed really good.  I like too the poses of the characters and the captions written.  Please do also join my yahoo website on Marie Antoinette where I have a huge gallery as well as active discussion of Marie Antoinette - her life, times, and images in art, caricature, literature, stage and cinema. LINK:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Images_of_Marie_Antoinette/

Best regards,
Axel

Eric_Lowe

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #551 on: October 16, 2007, 10:00:42 PM »
Those WERE crazy times... :o

Mari

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« Reply #552 on: October 17, 2007, 03:37:05 AM »
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I have a huge gallery as well as active discussion of Marie Antoinette - her life, times, and images in art, caricature, literature, stage and cinema. LINK:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Images_of_Marie_Antoinette/

Are the Death Mask of Marie Antoinette the real thing? I see you also have a good Collection of Caricatures. One of the most shocking things I have come across on the Web are the caricatures of her and I presume Axel von Fersen! This was to present as common knowledge the idea that Marie Antoinette was a harlot.

Axel_von_Fersen

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« Reply #553 on: October 17, 2007, 01:12:36 PM »
Thanks for the comments Mari.  I do have many caricatures and all art about Marie Antoinette is welcomed.  Which groups, photo albums and pictures do you refer to in terms of death masks and caricatures of the Queen in compromising positions with a man, whiohc you presume to be Fersen??

As to "common knowledge" that the Queen was a harlot, well... I do beleive that view was widely held.  First among the nobility and then the populace.  Belief in her loose morals fueled the behavior of Cardinal De Rohan and was a key cause of the Necklace Affair and Rohan's acquittal and subsequent further loss of reputation to Marie Antoinette

Axel

Mari

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Re: Queen Marie Antoinette
« Reply #554 on: October 18, 2007, 03:13:03 AM »
I hope I didn't give you the idea I think Marie Antoinette was a Harlot. I do not believe it. Historians I know have considered that Axel von Fersen may have been her lover, but if that were even the case, he would have been the only one. On your site I came across a Death Mask and I wondered if it was real and had been made at the time of her Death.  As to the shocking Caricatures when I have time I will see if I can track them down.  The Populace I know were very willing to believe many things of Marie Antoinette because She was an Austrian first and then her frivolous life style in the early years before She had Children. Many people forget She was still very young when She came to France.  It does not excuse the harsh treatment that she endured at the hands of the Mobs and at her imprisonment and trial.