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Mili

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Re: French Royal Palaces (except Versailles)
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2006, 08:16:51 AM »
Ah but worry not you may be seeing the Tuileries in all its 'original' glory one day in the future. The original furniture was removed during the Franco-Prussian war and stored in safehouses, so keep your fingers crossed and hope that they approve the plan and get enough funding to rebuild the wonderful palace of the Tuileries and complete the Parisian axis once more  ;)

elena_maria_vidal

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2006, 08:24:31 AM »
That is very exciting that they will rebuild it. It should not be difficult with all those photos of the interior! I had no idea the they had saved the furniture! I can't wait to see it!

coquelicot

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2006, 09:02:54 AM »
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Ah but worry not you may be seeing the Tuileries in all its 'original' glory one day in the future. The original furniture was removed during the Franco-Prussian war and stored in safehouses, so keep your fingers crossed and hope that they approve the plan and get enough funding to rebuild the wonderful palace of the Tuileries and complete the Parisian axis once more  


Do you think they will really do that ? And that it is possible ? Concreately, I mean... Oh, I'd love to see those Tuileries rebuilt, but I doubt the french will ever do so... You're right, Milli, let's cross our fingers !

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2006, 11:27:14 AM »
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Do you think they will really do that ? And that it is possible ? Concreately, I mean... Oh, I'd love to see those Tuileries rebuilt, but I doubt the french will ever do so... You're right, Milli, let's cross our fingers !



Here is a plan of the area in the 18th C. Interestingly there was a whole quartier (Quartier du Caroussel) between the Tuileries and the Louvre with streets and houses. The Guillotine was first set up on Place du Caroussel in 1792, but was moved later that year to Place de la Concorde (Place Louis XV).

In the 19th C the quarter was demolished and the Louvre was connected up to the Tuileries. In 1870 the Tuileries burnt down - leaving the arrangement we see today.

I doubt very much that the Tuileries will be rebuilt. It would block the sightlines from the Louvre to the Arc de Triomphe and on to La Défense.




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elena_maria_vidal

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2006, 11:35:22 AM »
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Here is a plan of the area in the 18th C. Interestingly there was a whole quartier (Quartier du Caroussel) between the Tuileries and the Louvre with streets and houses. The Guillotine was first set up on Place du Caroussel in 1792, but was moved later that year to Place de la Concorde (Place Louis XV).

In the 19th C the quarter was demolished and the Louvre was connected up to the Tuileries. In 1870 the Tuileries burnt down - leaving the arrangement we see today.

I doubt very much that the Tuileries will be rebuilt. It would block the sightlines from the Louvre to the Arc de Triomphe and on to La Défense.






Thank you again, Bell. I thought that the Tuileries and the Louvre were connected, but I see that they were not, unless I am reading the map wrong. I had no idea that the Place du Caroussel had been a little neighborhood. This is very helpful.

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2006, 11:46:58 AM »
They were connected (but at first floor level i.e. above the streets) along the banks of the Seine. I think this link was built by Catherine de Medicis and Henri IV.

elena_maria_vidal

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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2006, 11:57:17 AM »
Oh, I see. I WAS reading the map wrong. Thanks, cousin.

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2006, 12:56:39 PM »
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Oh, I see. I WAS reading the map wrong. Thanks, cousin.


Oh cousin! Well I suppose it's possible!




elena_maria_vidal

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Re: French Royal Palaces (except Versailles)
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2006, 01:00:30 PM »
I wonder why the Tuileries became the main part of the palace where the royalty lived, and not the Louvre?

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2006, 01:07:18 PM »
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I wonder why the Tuileries became the main part of the palace where the royalty lived, and not the Louvre?


Here's a better map which shows the link:



Until the 18 th C the area beyond the Tuileries was open countryside, so it was much better air than living in the Louvre which was right in the middle of the stench of the city. The royals could use the link to get to the Tuileries on foot, where they had access to gardens and countryside. In Florence there is a similar arrangement which goes over the river to get to the Pitti palace.

elena_maria_vidal

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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2006, 01:14:47 PM »
Oooh! I see! Thank you!! :) Really interesting! I never knew all that. I wonder what is the linguistic origin of the word "Tuileries?"

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2006, 01:20:05 PM »
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Oooh! I see! Thank you!! :) Really interesting! I never knew all that. I wonder what is the linguistic origin of the word "Tuileries?"


In mediaeval times it was a place where roof tiles ("tuiles") were fabricated for the buildings of Paris.

elena_maria_vidal

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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2006, 01:37:07 PM »
Thanks. I remember now. Is the link still there or was it destroyed?

bell_the_cat

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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2006, 01:43:31 PM »
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Thanks. I remember now. Is the link still there or was it destroyed?


It's still there - in the 19th C Napoleon and Napoleon III
built a symmetrical wing along the rue de Rivoli. It's difficult for the modern visitor to distinguish between the two wings - although they are three centuries apart.

this is Turgot's view of 1737:

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elena_maria_vidal

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Re: French Royal Palaces (except Versailles)
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2006, 02:42:17 PM »
Thanks, this is the best picture yet! No wonder I walked all over, not being able to find where the Tuileries had stood. It is not where I thought it was at all!

I recall reading that in the Tuileries gardens, while Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were in residence during the Revolution, a plot was given to the little Dauphin (Louis XVII) in which he could grow vegetables and flowers. The same patch of ground was used by Napoleon's little boy, the "King of Rome," as his garden and again by young Henri de Cambord several years later. How poignant that three small boys, three princes, who all played in roughly the same area of those vast gardens, were never to sit on the thrones intended for them.