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Re: Grand Duchesses individual coat of arms?
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2007, 09:13:48 PM »
I remember seeing a close up of the picture at one time and I am quite certain the cards said the names of the grand duchesses and Alexei.

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Re: Grand Duchesses individual coat of arms?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 09:16:00 PM »
Thank you Charley.
 Those are very hard to read, and I could very well be wrong, but  do not think they are  Nicholas' daughter's arms.  I have a similiar, if not the same, set and they show the various designs used by the Romanovs over the years.  There were many of them.  Unless each GD was given individual titles  other than "Grand Duchess [or great princess] of Russia, there would not be much reason to have separate arms.  That is my opinion, for what it may be worth.
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Re: Grand Duchesses individual coat of arms?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2007, 10:51:26 PM »
I really thought that they specifically named each of Nicholas's daughters, of course I could be wrong.  I wish I could remember where I got the picture from. It is obviously a set that I assume you could purchase at some point. Maybe I can look a little more and see if I can find another example. You can see the cover sheet that says, "Romanoff's Coats of Arms" (or something like that) and also Russian writing.  Does your set have the same cover?  What does it say about the coat of arms under the postcards? These do seem very ornate.  I don't recall the last Romanov Coat of Arms to be that decorative.

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Re: Grand Duchesses individual coat of arms?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2007, 11:10:09 PM »
Yes, the set I have says the same- Romanov Arms and it is very similiar if not the same.  I will have to dig it out of my files to be sure though.  I have a few books on  Romanov hearldry and they were were extremely elaborate, depending on the ocaission they were used for Coronation, funeral ,wedding and births being the most.  The State arms were a bit more restrained however.
 I know the heir had his own arms, but I will not swear  by the GDs.  As far as I know, they had no separate titles [ like Princess of Novgorod or Kiev] that would actually warrant them.  Again, I could be wrong as well here. Someone with more knowledge on the topic will have to tell us.
 Ceremonial Cyrilic can be a bit difficult to translate so it is not uncommon to be mistaken about these things unless one is well versed- which I certainly am not!
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Re: Grand Duchesses individual coat of arms?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2007, 01:26:37 PM »
As far as I can tell all Grand Dukes and Grand Duchesses used a border around the imperial standard to show they were Grand Dukes and Duchesses.

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Re: Grand Duchesses cyphers/monograms HELP!
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2007, 05:10:04 AM »
I  am wondering what Anastasia's was? Thanks.
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Re: Grand Duchesses' individual coats of arms/cyphers/monograms
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2010, 05:42:25 AM »
Olga's arms
Tatiana's arms
Maria's arms
As far as I can see the only difference in the girls' arms is the look of the supporters, Varangian warriors.
Alexei's arms
They also had lesser versions of their arms: Just the shield with the crown on top and the order surrounding it, without mantle and supporters.
(Close-up of the Emperor's Great Arms for a better view of the smaller shields (clickable!) featured in their arms.)
I don't know if Anastasia had arms, perhaps she was too young when these arms were granted in 1911. Alexei, although younger, but the Tsesarevich, was granted arms a few months before his birth!

Arms of all categories of the Imperial Family (Grand Dukes, Princes, Romanovskys etc. with detailled description of the arms listed above (in Russian).
« Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 05:49:59 AM by Fyodor Petrovich »

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Re: Grand Duchesses' individual coats of arms/cyphers/monograms
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 07:04:05 PM »
A extremely rare porcelain egg bearing the cypher of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna.

http://www.romanovrussia.com/Russian_Porcelain_Easter_Egg_Grand_Duchess_Anastasia.html