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Offline Ammie

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Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« on: June 24, 2004, 01:41:54 PM »
I'm reading Romanov Autumn & on pg 48 its says that Olga (who was 3 yo) told Miss Eager about an old lady in a blue dress. Then as Olga & Miss Eager were walking through the rotunda in the Winter Palace Olga pointed to a portrait of Maria Alexandrovna.  Does anybody have any other information about this?  Thanks in advance!
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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2004, 05:52:00 PM »
Sorry to say, I have no information on it but I tried looking it up on the internet and found nothing. I am interested in it too. I don't know why I have been having trouble finding anything on the subject. ???

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2004, 07:43:27 PM »
Interesting story, I had not heard it before. Unfortunately, I have no information about it but it reminds me of a passage I read in Miss Eagar's book that alluded to the fact that little Maria and Anastasia also saw a ghost once. This happened the night that their young cousin Elisabeth of Hesse passed away. Here is the passage in full:

"Presently the two little Grand Duchesses, Marie and Anastasie, began to scream, and I ran into their room; I found them both standing in their beds looking terribly alarmed. They told me there was a strange man in their room who had frightened them. Now the rooms were in a suite, and they could be entered only from the dining-room, or from the second bedroom, and this bedroom in its turn could only be entered from the room in which the little Princess [Elisabeth] lay ill. It will therefore be seen that no one could have entered their room without our knowledge. The doctor and the little Princess's own faithful servantman had been in the dining-room all night.

I thought the night-light might have thrown a shadow which frightened the children into thinking there was someone in the room. I therefore changed its position, but still the children were afraid, and said he was hiding over by the curtain. I lit a candle, and taking little Anastasie in my arms, carried her round the room to prove to her that there was absolutely nothing to frighten her. The doctor came in and tried to soothe Marie, but it was useless; she would not be soothed and Anastasie refused to return to bed, so I took her in my arms and sat down to try to comfort her. She buried her face in my neck and clung to me trembling and shaking. It was dreadful to me to see her in such a fright [...] Marie kept talking about the dreadful person, and starting up in wild horror every now and then. The doctor came in and out, and told me the strange doctor had come and had given the little sufferer [Elisabeth] an injection of caffeine [...] When next Marie began to talk about the mysterious stranger I said, 'A strange doctor had come to help Dr. H. to make cousin Ella quite well, and perhaps he might have come to the door by mistake, or you might have heard him speak, but there is no one in the room now.'

She assured me that the stranger was not a doctor and had not come through that door at all, and did not speak. Suddenly she stood up and looked at something which I could not see. 'Oh!' she said, 'he is gone into cousin Ella's room.' Anastasie sat up on my knee and said, 'Oh! poor cousin Ella; poor Princess Elizabeth!' " The little girl died shortly thereafter.

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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2004, 08:31:05 PM »
Wow that was amazing.I have never heard that story before.I can just imagine poor little Marie and Anastasia being scared out of their wits.I think I would have been a little shaken as well. :o
Don't knock on Death's door....ring the doorbell and run. He hates that.:D

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2004, 04:03:38 AM »
Shortly before Prince Alexander of Hesse (Battenberg), Empress Maria Alexandrowna's brother, died in 1888 he also had a strange experience:

He was sleeping when his daughter Marie (who wrote down this story in her "Reminiscences") sat next to his bed.
All of a sudden he opened his eyes and looked straight to the opposite wall. Marie asked him "What's the matter Papa? Do you see something?". He pointed to the wall and whispered: "My sister tells me that she is here! And she says that she is happy and that I'll be happy too". (The Empress had died 8 years before)
Peacefully he turned back into his pillows.
Marie went to her cousin Grand Duke Sergej and Ella (who visited her father Ludwig IV) and told them what Prince Alexander had seen.
Sergej fell down on his knees and with tears in the eyes he said: "Oh God thank you for hearing my prayer". Then he told them that he had prayed since several days that God would allow his dead mother to appear her passing brother and to comfort him.
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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2004, 03:28:14 PM »
It was more than Maria's ghost in the lives of the Romanovs.

Since I am probably one of the old ones posting,    I am more in touch with the mystical world  my generation and those before me were a part.  I say this for several reasons.  In my youth, known to some as the Dark Ages,  we didn't have tv so we listen to the old timers and their stories.  Some stories were serious, some funny and the ones I like best were the ones about ghost.  When I'd ask if the story was "really true" the reply would be "yes"...  After a real good ghost story was told,   I would go to bed and in the darkness of the bedroom I'd see all kinds of shadowy shapes..... The bed covers would go over my head and I'd wonder if tonight I'd see a ghost beckoning me to some unknown border....maybe, even death.

I always have felt that  my generation was born on the border of the Dark Ages and the world of medical break throughs, computers and other great new things...  Today, most of what was once "mysterious" can be explained.  In my youth,  the mysterious was often explained in  mystical and spiritual terms.  And I assume both the mystical and spiritual were needed by Alexandra who's only son ended up with hemophilia....  

Alexandra was looking for answers....  The medical world didn't have any answers accept the fact that Alexis had a blood disorder which would probably kill him before he became an adult and were of no help to her or her son in his pain.  Unfortunately, someone recommended Rasputin, who claimed he not only had the answers but claimed he had  the power of God to help Alexis.

From that day to this, the dark shadowy ghost of Rasputin flies like the Disney creature of evil over the lives of the Royal Russian family.

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"What is true by lamplight is not always true by sunlight."

Joubert, Pensees, No. 152

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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2004, 07:15:34 PM »
The stories of Maria Alexandrovna are so heartbreaking. The story regarding Prince Alexander is really touching.
I haven't heard of any of the ghost stories either but find them interesting.  I will look on the internet also.
Thanks Ammie

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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2005, 10:13:54 PM »
are there any records of people seeing the spirits of the last IF?? ???
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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2005, 11:36:33 PM »
I'd hate to think NAOTMAA are now wandering spirits! I know some people claim to have seen Aleksandra. I don't know about the others.

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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2005, 10:29:43 AM »
Signs Over The Ipatiev House in 1990

  "This letter is written to you by the Cossack Vladimir. I would like to tell you about a manifestation (sign) that took place at the
moment when the cross was set up on the site of the Ipatiev house, where the Czar and his family were killed.
     On October 5, 1990, at about 11 a.m. - 12 noon, crushed stone was brought in a truck. The weather turned gloomy. The whole sky was filled with dark clouds, without any clear areas, and snow fell sporadically.
    The cross was taken from the vehicle and placed on the ground and then set in place.
     One of the people present, Alexei by name, went off to one side to take a look at how the cross had been set up, and whether it was leaning. Suddenly Alexei said, 'Look up!' We all raised our heads, and sort of tremor or fear passed through our bodies.
     Above us - that is, directly above the cross - the heavens parted and a ray of light fell upon the cross from a round clear spot in the sky."
     "The sun was not visible, and the opening in the clouds was rotating to the right: and on the
earth, around the cross within a radius of 150 - 300 feet, there was a  circle brightened by this ray of light from the heavens, and no snow was falling.      
  All this continued for about thirty to forty minutes, while the cross was being set in place and fixed with concrete, and then the opening in the clouds closed up.
     The light disappeared. Up to thirty people were present at the time. (At that moment, all of them were unbelievers.)
     When we asked a priest about this manifestation later, he replied that this was obviously a sign. The majority of us came to believe in God afterwards."

Credit to Romanov Memorial

Heavenly Hymns In The Ipatiev House

The story was told to Archbishop Melchizedek, who had then been the hierarch of katerinburg for many years.
At the time of the fall of the Soviet government in 1990, an old woman came to his office. Although she was not a believer, she felt that she was going to die soon and said that she had something she wanted to tell him.
After the death of the Czar and his family, the Ipatiev house had been turned into the "Museum of the Workers' Revenge,"to commemorate the death of the family. This woman, Anna, had been the night guard in the museum for several decades, and although the rest of the house was open during the day for visitors, the basement site of the family's murder was always kept barred and locked. No one, including the guards, ever went down there. Anna told the Archbishop that many times during her years of working there she could hear beautiful singing and see light streaming from the basement door when night fell. She said that the singing was as of many voices, and definitely church music. She would often creep up to the door to listen but was too frightened to go into the basement to look. She did not tell anyone, since she knew that if she reported such things she would be dismissed and possibly arrested. Archbishop Melchizedek asked Anna if she would sign an affidavit attesting to the truth of her story, but she refused, saying that she was too afraid of the KGB to sign anything that might get her in trouble.

Also Credit to Romanov Memorial


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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2005, 02:16:07 PM »
they seemed to know that the bolshie power was finished ;) ghosts are said to wander if they have unfinished business or that they died so quickly they didn't realise they were dead, if you can understand what i mean ;)
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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2005, 02:41:19 PM »
I've always believed in ghosts, but I have trouble believing that the Romanovs are still hanging out in the basement. If they are, I hope they don't realize they're dead. If they think they're alive, all they know is that they're together. I'm just glad they don't keep reliving their murder, like some ghosts do.

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Re: Ghosts, Hauntings & Mysticism in the Romanov Family
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2005, 04:20:35 PM »
They are alive - in Christ. The Bible clearly says there is no death. They have been glorified as Saints, and we can ask for their prayers and intercessions before God.

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2005, 06:05:21 PM »
Very true, I made this poem earlier this year or last year.

It sad to see you gone.

But you''ll be in my heart for ever.

It sad to not hear you're voice.

But it a joy to remember the good days.

it sad to see were you stay sleeping.

but I know you're always be right next to me, even though I can't see you.

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2005, 06:32:02 PM »
If we discuss religion it's going to get touchy, but I'm open to believe anything.