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Re: Jeanne d'Arc
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2005, 07:08:22 AM »
So how do you explain Charles's inaction when it came to saving her life?
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2005, 07:39:14 AM »


I wrote my theory just a couple of posts above, Kim!
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2005, 08:21:19 AM »
I read that two English men called her: 'Hoer', and all of that words, you know? And Jeanne said: 'About one hour you both will be dead.'
Jeanne was right, one hour later the two men drowned in a river.

Quit interesting!  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2005, 08:21:48 AM »
OK Umigon. I think that it didn't even cross his mind to save her. She wasn't a noble woman, so I believe he wouldn't have given any credence to paying any ransome if it was asked for. Harsh, but true.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2005, 08:24:17 AM »
I agree with Kim. Jeanne was useful to him, but by the time she was captured, she was liability he didn't want to be associated with.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2005, 08:25:03 AM »
Absolutely true Kim, I think he wouldn't have saved her had she been his own daughter (I would have said if she had been his mother, but we know they loved very little each other!)
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2005, 08:27:23 AM »
How old was Jeanne when she was burned? Anyone know?
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2005, 08:31:40 AM »
Prince_Lieven i told that in my little biographie, 19.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2005, 08:32:56 AM »
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Prince_Lieven i told that in my little biographie, 19.


Sorry, Robby! I am incredibly short-sighted and I can't find my glasses (or my contacts, stupid things!)  :-[
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2005, 08:35:48 AM »
It's Ok Prince_Lieven.

The brothers of Jeanne thought that Jeanne din't burned at the stake, but another woman whom who was believed to be Jeanne, years later there appears many 'Jeanne's', but i believe she was just burned at that horrible stake as a Witch, it makes me mad  >:(.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2005, 08:40:09 AM »
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It's Ok Prince_Lieven.

The brothers of Jeanne thought that Jeanne din't burned at the stake, but another woman whom who was believed to be Jeanne, years later there appears many 'Jeanne's', but i believe she was just burned at that horrible stake as a Witch, it makes me mad  >:(.


Phew - got my contacts at last.

Anywho, I agree with you, Robby. They couldn't execute her as a soldier so they burned her as a witch - barbaric.
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2005, 08:41:26 AM »


Makes you mad or not, Robby, the sad thing is that poor Jeanne was indeed burnt... But she died with much dignity, as it was awaited from her.


It was her destiny and she probably knew she would end up that way...
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2005, 08:50:58 AM »
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Makes you mad or not, Robby, the sad thing is that poor Jeanne was indeed burnt... But she died with much dignity, as it was awaited from her.


It was her destiny and she probably knew she would end up that way...


Yes, I beleive the year before she died she said something like 'I will not last until next April' or something, and sure enough she was right.  :o
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Re: Jeanne d'Arc
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2005, 09:14:19 AM »
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It's Ok Prince_Lieven.

The brothers of Jeanne thought that Jeanne din't burned at the stake, but another woman whom who was believed to be Jeanne, years later there appears many 'Jeanne's', but i believe she was just burned at that horrible stake as a Witch, it makes me mad  >:(.

Fascinating isn't how history repeats itself so many times.There are so many"pretenders" for these famous, and often, very tragic personalities from history.
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2005, 09:19:00 AM »
Exactly, like Louis XVII, or Grand Duchess Anastasia, or the Princes in the Tower, the list goes on . . .
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