Charles, Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall

[Mari]

I agree with you Michael I would not like to see Camilla Queen!

May I ask a question and I am just wondering about this...in the last 200 years how many  British Kings have ever married their  Mistress? I mean I find that so puzzling that Charles would not see that as a problem. He obviously cared little about Diana's feelings, even in the beginning of the Marriage  he was attached to Camilla...  but could he not see with the Church this might be a problem? Or later with part of the British public?   Just asking here....

[Michael HR]

I'm not sure he cares what people think

[Mari]

I wonder if he'll care if Camilla is not called Queen? or if  there really are protests or a bill passed to change the law and assign her another title? Oh, well I guess everyone will know eventually.... but hopefully not for twenty years! 

[Adagietto]

I don't hink it would be a matter of legislating to remove her title of Queen (which would ne an unncecessary indignity), but of the palace letting it be known that she would prefer to be addressed by another title; just as there has been no legislation to prevent her from being called Princess of Wales.

[Michael HR]

True. She already has this title as Duchess of Cornwall and there will be others that she can choose from on Charles accession. Maybe in 20 years we shall not mind her being Queen, who knows.

[mcdnab]

Apart from Queen there aren't that many alternate titles to chose from - on his accession Charles' existing titles merge with the crown.  His son automatically becomes Duke of Cornwall (Prince of Wales is usually granted shortly thereafter but not always - Edward VII delayed granted the then Duke of York and Cornwall the future George V the title for many months - whereas George V created his son Prince of Wales very quickly)as already has been discussed there is no provision in law for the wife of the King not being Queen. Back in the thirties one suggestion for Wallis had she and Edward married and had he stayed on the throne was if Parliament here in the UK (and in every other commonwealth country of which the monarch remained head of state) would legislate for morganatic marriage and she would have perhaps been HRH, The Duchess of Lancaster (as the Duchy estates of Lancaster still provide a substantial income for the monarch).  The situation now is different as Charles and Camilla are already married on his accession she automatically becomes Queen - this was and always has been the law of the land.  Currently Clarence House maintains that she will be known as Princess Consort - whatever her legal status - but that fiction won't stand up after his accession and in my view it shouldn't.
At the time of the abdication George VI refused the HRH to Wallis on the grounds she had not been judged fitting to be Queen therefore to raise her to the status of a Royal Highness made a nonsense of the abdication. If Camilla is good enough to be a Royal Highness and thereby a member of the Royal Family then to deprive her of the title of Queen Consort kind of makes a nonsense of her existing titles and styles.  As has already been mentioned there is every possibility that she or her husband will predecease the Queen therefore the point becomes moot.
As a British Subject i'd rather she was Queen Consort if it does happen than creating some kind of odd compromise in part because i am a bit traditional about these things!

[Adagietto]

I'd prefer her to be called Queen too because it seems the natural and proper thing, but the royal family does have to be sensitive to public feeling (which seems to be pretty divided on this matter). It doesn't strike me as being any very great matter if the palace ask for her to be called Princess Consort.

[CHRISinUSA]

As a British Subject i'd rather she was Queen Consort if it does happen than creating some kind of odd compromise in part because i am a bit traditional about these things!

Here here!  The monarchy as an institution is bigger than the individuals who occupy it at any point in time. 

[Lucien]

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/index.html

[Eric_Lowe]

Thanks for the link.

[Lucien]

TRH The Prince and Princess of Wales are on the first leg of their Official Visit to South-East Asia  (Brunei and Indonesia) and Japan.
They arrived in Tokyo yesterday and were welcomed by HIH Crown Prince Naruhito.Later that day they met with Prince Naruhito and
Crown Princess Masako privately.

http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1225109656.html

Today they visited Keiyo University:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1225168716.html

Dinner with TM Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1225197942.html

Courtesy Marianne,GREMB.
 

[Lucien]

Japan,day 3

http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1225261346.html

courtesy Marianne,GREMB.

[Eric_Lowe]

I like the photo of Camilla and Charles dicussing how to use the wooden sword.

[Lucien]

Japan,day 3

http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/msg/1225261346.html

courtesy Marianne,GREMB.

http://www.royalimages.nl/search.pp?page=1&ShowPicture=8543296&pos=1

courtesy Royalimages.

[Eric_Lowe]

She did not seem at ease with the child.