Queen Wilhelmina

[grandduchessella]

I wonder if the Mecklenburg connection (the Prince Consort and the CPss of Prussia) helped with the exile of Kaiser Wilhem and CP Wilhelm?

[thijs]

I tend to think that it did help grandduchessella, because it is known that queen Wilhelmina herself was certainly not fond of the Kaiser. She blamed him for not doing enough to prevent that terrible war and she had not a very high esteem of the Kaiser. She refused to meet him ever again even though he lived in her country. After WW ll queen Wilhelmina refused to speak ever a German word again for the rest of her live.  I know that Juliana visited the Kaiser in Doorn and was a personal friend to grandduchess Kyra, wife of Louis Ferdinand. The kaiser was permitted to live first in castle Amerongen and later he bought castle Doorn. I am fortunate to live nearby so I have visited Doorn many times. It is wondefully decorated with furniture  and other stuff of the German palaces of Wilhelm ll. It is a Dutch state museum since the end of WW ll. Crownprince Willie was in exile in the province of Zealand without permission to travel but I think that the crownprincess Cecilie, by that time, went her own way because I have never heard that she joined him in exile.

[thijs]

Queen Wilhelmina (on the left) with German relatives. I do recognize the face of one of the sisters of queen Emma in the back row but I don`t know which one. The little girl on the right is princess Alice, the later countess of Athlone and first cousin of Wilhelmina.

[grandduchessella]

The boy in front is Alice's brother Charles Edward, Duke of Albany and later Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

[Lucien]

I tend to think that it did help grandduchessella, because it is known that queen Wilhelmina herself was certainly not fond of the Kaiser. She blamed him for not doing enough to prevent that terrible war and she had not a very high esteem of the Kaiser. She refused to meet him ever again even though he lived in her country. After WW ll queen Wilhelmina refused to speak ever a German word again for the rest of her live.  I know that Juliana visited the Kaiser in Doorn and was a personal friend to grandduchess Kyra, wife of Louis Ferdinand. The kaiser was permitted to live first in castle Amerongen and later he bought castle Doorn. I am fortunate to live nearby so I have visited Doorn many times. It is wondefully decorated with furniture  and other stuff of the German palaces of Wilhelm ll. It is a Dutch state museum since the end of WW ll. Crownprince Willie was in exile in the province of Zealand without permission to travel but I think that the crownprincess Cecilie, by that time, went her own way because I have never heard that she joined him in exile.

Prince Hendrik visited the Kaiser regularly while the latter was in exile.The visits started soon after the war,unofficially,and it was Hendrik who operated as a llaison,travelled to Berlin and saw to it the Kaiser's belongings came here by train.All 52 traincarriages full.Yes,Wilhelmina loathed the Kaiser,running off as he did was a shock to her,not worthy of a Monarch.

Wilhelmina didn't,officially,allow visits by members of her family untill 1927.The Crown Prince Wilhelm was,not in Zeeland,but in the top of the province Noord-Holland,in Wieringen(Wieringenmeer polderThijs )a former island.He was confined there for quite a while,nothing at hand,except a few kids after he left.Crown Princess Cecilie never joined her husband there,occasional visits to her father-in-law,yes,nothing else.                                            

[Teddy]

Because I'm Dutch, I always wondered how the relation was between Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands (Emma, Heinrich of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Juliana) and Nicholas and Alexandra.

Had they contact? Was there any correspondence between those 2. They were  both reigning Royals.

I know that Nicky has visit The Hague in 1898 because about the Peace Conference. What was there opion about eachother?

The strongest relationship between the Oranges and the Romanov was between Heinrich and Maria P sr. because they were half-siblings.

[thijs]

To be honest Teddy, it is a great puzzle for me, the relationship between Wihelmina and her Russian relatives. I almost know nothing about htis topic but I am sure interested to learn more about it. So if anybody does know something please do post. I don`t know very much either about the kind of relation Henry had with his (much older ) sister Maria Paulowna. I read somewhere on this board that he once visited her in St. Petersburg.

[Teddy]

Yes, Heinrich visited St. Petersburg in 1914. During this visit he not only visited his sister, the Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna sr., but he also met Nicky and Rasputin.

I thought that Victoria M. mentioned this visit in a letter, to her sister Queen Marie of Romania. She called Heinrich a "fat man".

This visit was I thought in August 1914, during the outbreak of WW1.

[thijs]

Mecklenburg family picture: from left to right duke Henry, duke Adolph, duchess Elisabeth and the grandduchess widow Marie.The other persons  are staff of the grandducal household.

[thijs]

GEORG VIKTOR furst zu Waldeck u.Pyrmont (Arolsen 14 Jan 1831-Marienbad 12 May 1893) and furstin Helene born princess of Nassau (Wiesbaden 12 Aug 1831-Bad Pyrmont 27 Oct 1888). Grandfather and grandmother maternal of queen Wilhelmina.

[Lucien]

To be auctioned at Christie's Amsterdam,an original Wilhelmina,depicting a pond in the park of Het Loo Palace.
Given by the late Queen as a birthday gift to a former Lady in waiting.

A ring,given to a senior member of HM King Willem III household by the King.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=17-10-2007%20Amsterdam

Courtesy PPE/Christie's.

[royal_netherlands]

Thank you Lucien!

I wish I could effort it to buy that beautiful original Wilhelmina!

But fore now I have to be satisfied with a reproduction and this most wonderful portrait of the young Queen
 Just Brilliant and look at those wonderful jewels she’s wearing!



My favorite Queen: HM Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands (1880-1962)

Greetings from her country!

Royal Netherlands

[Lucien]

Thank you for that Royal Netherlands!Beautifull,but somewhat heavy saphire parure given to the Queen on her marriage by the Nation.It was broken up after she passed away and all her granddaughters have bits and pieces of it in use as bracelets,earhangers and brooches,but most is still collecting dust in the vaults,unfortunately.

[Yseult]

Hello!
I have seen a lot of pictures of Wilhelmina when she was a mature woman and took upon her shoulders the leadership of her countrymen in very troubled times. But I have heard that she was a charming young woman, the queen of the pretty face. Can anyone provide pictures of Wilhelmina young?
Thanks

[gogm]

How about:













 She has an interesting and impressive biography too!:)