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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2009, 01:22:28 AM »
I just had a quiet drink with a friend of mine and learnt some news you all may be interested in.

During the election of Patriarch Kyril, HIH Grand Duchess Maria was in Moscow observing the events.
She was fortunate to be invited to dinner with a certain Mr. V. Putin, and during the week was very busy granting orders to various soldiers and other Russian Hero's.
It appears very evident that something is in the wind, a recognition of sort sort,ala, an official decleration of her being the Official Head of the family, and perhaps some sort of invitation to live in Russia, in a role fairly similar to that of HRH Crown Prince Alexander of Serbia.

Also, that her son HIH Grand Duke George is acting as a representative for that Russian energy company, whatsitsname(ov) lol, and that this is OBVIOUSLY the very first time since 1917 that a Romanov is officially a representative of Russian industry, let alone annything else.


Now back to that bottle of red!!!
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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2009, 07:31:07 PM »
Hm,interesting...but George is rather von Hohenzollern-Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov...

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2009, 08:38:28 PM »
Ah, I dont think I want to partake in that debate any more!!
We all know the truth, yet times, people, empires and surnames change!


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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2009, 05:49:36 AM »
True ;-) I don't talk about how they called themselves but who they are by blood...

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2009, 07:24:26 PM »
Hm,interesting...but George is rather von Hohenzollern-Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov...

Not if the marriage contracts between the couple indicate otherwise - which they do. When a female dynast is heir, her legitimate issue generally "belong" to her dynastic house - which he does.

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #81 on: March 26, 2009, 10:39:36 AM »
So,he would only belong to the House of Holstein-Gottorp? ;-)

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #82 on: March 27, 2009, 03:11:22 PM »
So,he would only belong to the House of Holstein-Gottorp? ;-)

No, the name of this particular dynasty is Romanov-Holstein-Gottorp. No matter what it's called, I am given to understand that George is not of the House of Hohenzollern per the marriage contract.

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #83 on: March 27, 2009, 05:32:30 PM »
During his visit to Russia in November 2009 Georgiy Mikhailovich accepted the offer of a position of the advisor of the Diector of the company NORILSKIY NIKEL ( it i think poduces metals) and strted his job in december 2008. he presents the companu in the European union.also, he became a member of the board of directors of Nickel Institute where he deals with the European Commission. In fact, he is going to fight agains the decision of the European Cmmission that considered that some products of NORILSKIY NIKEL contain too many noxious substances. he is going to do his best to change the decision of Europ Comission. 


I just had a quiet drink with a friend of mine and learnt some news you all may be interested in.

During the election of Patriarch Kyril, HIH Grand Duchess Maria was in Moscow observing the events.
She was fortunate to be invited to dinner with a certain Mr. V. Putin, and during the week was very busy granting orders to various soldiers and other Russian Hero's.
It appears very evident that something is in the wind, a recognition of sort sort,ala, an official decleration of her being the Official Head of the family, and perhaps some sort of invitation to live in Russia, in a role fairly similar to that of HRH Crown Prince Alexander of Serbia.

Also, that her son HIH Grand Duke George is acting as a representative for that Russian energy company, whatsitsname(ov) lol, and that this is OBVIOUSLY the very first time since 1917 that a Romanov is officially a representative of Russian industry, let alone annything else.


Now back to that bottle of red!!!


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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #84 on: March 27, 2009, 06:03:20 PM »
There are currently moves afoot to grant the GDuchess and her son Grace and Favour apartments in a St.Petersburg Palace.
 
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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #85 on: March 27, 2009, 06:10:57 PM »
once mariya vladimirovna was asked why she didn`tlive in any of St Petersburg palaces. she said that it was really expensive to maintain such a palace...

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2009, 04:58:48 AM »
the name of this particular dynasty is Romanov-Holstein-Gottorp
Foreign variant from Almanach de Gotha. In Russia it was "The Russian Imperial House". Since 1913 Jubilee title "House of Romanovs" was also used.

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #87 on: April 09, 2009, 04:43:51 PM »

the name of this particular dynasty is Romanov-Holstein-Gottorp




Foreign variant from Almanach de Gotha. In Russia it was "The Russian Imperial House". Since 1913 Jubilee title "House of Romanovs" was also used.




Mr. Macedonsky,

Do you agree with Ms. Lisa Davidson that the members of  "The Russian Imperial House" have no surname?

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2009, 10:50:11 PM »
I think the correct terminology is that a royal family has a "House Name!" which is usual based on their dynastic origins, some who are mere branches of the house have added others to it but that arguably a Royal doesn't have or need a surname. It's only really become an issue for deposed royals and for the still reigning families who've limited the use of royal titles and styles and have been presented with the issue.
So arguably they are within their rights to choose whichever surname they like rather like most of today's reigning houses who've been presented with a similar issue.
As Maria Vladimirovna is a claimant to the throne of Russia she rightly choses to use a style of pretension (and i mean no insult here) in the same way that many others who claim a now defunct throne do. Whether she uses a surname on her passport or legal documents is up to her - but it may be that her passport is issued in her style of pretension - Maria Vladimirovna Grand Duchess of Russia etc...
In Britain the Royal House of Saxe Coburg Gotha became the House of Windsor (with limits on the Royal style to the third generation and those descendants needing a surname using Windsor) changed again by the present Queen to enable her descendants needing a surname to link two made up names Mountbatten Windsor - the first to legally need to use that surname will be the first born son of HRH Prince James of Wessex Viscount Severn although he will not technically need it as from birth he will be entitled to use a courtesy title

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Re: What are Maria Vladimirovna and her son doing?
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2009, 06:56:56 AM »

In Britain the Royal House of Saxe Coburg Gotha became the House of Windsor (with limits on the Royal style to the third generation and those descendants needing a surname using Windsor) changed again by the present Queen to enable her descendants needing a surname to link two made up names Mountbatten Windsor - the first to legally need to use that surname will be the first born son of HRH Prince James of Wessex Viscount Severn although he will not technically need it as from birth he will be entitled to use a courtesy title


I think when Anne, The Princess Royal married Captain Mark Phillips she signed the registar as "Anne Mountbatten-Windsor".

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