Author Topic: OTMA - smoking, make up and clothes  (Read 123673 times)

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helenazar

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #150 on: July 24, 2008, 10:07:06 AM »
Everything that went to captivity is gone. 

That probably means that their favorite clothes and things are gone, since I would assume that they would have taken those into captivity with them...

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #151 on: July 24, 2008, 10:20:43 AM »
That probably means that their favorite clothes and things are gone, since I would assume that they would have taken those into captivity with them...
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oh yes! how sad.but i guess they didnt need them any more where they were going :'(
also when the family were awakened on the 17th july 1918, did they have time to pack-i cant imagine so

tom_romanov

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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2008, 10:42:32 AM »
make up was worn so publically ( e.g all the time) until the 1920's

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #153 on: July 24, 2008, 12:28:41 PM »
Since there are still a lot of clothes that have been preserved, I really wish they'd put more of them on display or photograph them so we could see them.

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #154 on: July 24, 2008, 12:42:31 PM »
oh yes! how sad.but i guess they didnt need them any more where they were going
also when the family were awakened on the 17th july 1918, did they have time to pack-i cant imagine so

According to all written eyewitness accounts presently available regarding those early morning hours of 17 July, the family was specifically told not to pack anything because their belongings would follow them at a later date.

tom_romanov

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2008, 01:30:02 PM »
According to all written eyewitness accounts presently available regarding those early morning hours of 17 July, the family was specifically told not to pack anything because their belongings would follow them at a later date.
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« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2008, 03:57:46 PM »
But, did all the clothes left at the Alexander palace survive?. Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember reading that during the German Invasion of WWII, the Empress clothing was used as part of the "packaging" material  when the palace's treasures were being evacuated, so, furs and undergarments  were used as lining to protect whatever was being packed. This somehow gave me the idea that the family's clothing was considered "disposable"..

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« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2008, 05:35:08 AM »
thats awful about alix clothes! apperantley during ww2 german officers used to take the furs and wear them themselves to keep out of the cold

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« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2008, 07:10:13 AM »
fascinating thanks forum admin! i must go to Russia when i am older!

I agree on that, I intend to go myself once. To Saint-Petersburg and Tsarskoe Selo to visit the Alexander Palace and the Winter Palace, and to Tobolsk to visit the Governor's Mansion(I'd love to visit it - it is a museum isn't it?), and Yekaterinburg to visit the Church on the Blood and the Burial Place - to be honest i am saving money, so i can use that later for the trip since it'll be expensive i assume.

And back on-topic, I was also under the impression that everything was stored in the AP, Aldo during the Communist Regime it wasn't able to know for sure, since they didn't want connections to the former past, but i am glad that allot is preserved, so we can see a glimp of their lives and the glorious past of Russia.

And I think it is horrible that the Germans used Alix' clothes to package thins and stuff. They  didn't even think about the fact that  Alix was a German Princess from birth, but they intended to do worse to the AP itself so, I guess we should be glad that didn't work

Robert_Hall

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« Reply #159 on: July 25, 2008, 07:34:40 AM »
The Germans did not use the clothes for packing, the Russian curators did. They had a very short amount of time to evacuate the palaces of the valuables and used whatever was at hand.

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2008, 07:38:08 AM »
Yep, Governor's Mansion is museum:

I do also love to visit all places where IF were---Darmstadt, Mogilev, Kronstadt, Smolensk, AP,Tobolsk,Ekaterinburg,.....
And back on-topic, I was also under the impression that everything was stored in the AP, Aldo during the Communist Regime it wasn't able to know for sure, since they didn't want connections to the former past, but i am glad that allot is preserved, so we can see a glimp of their lives and the glorious past of Russia.
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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2008, 08:43:36 AM »
Sadly the Germans did a great deal of damage to the AP and other palaces before they left. Shame is a word the Nazi's did not seem to understand.

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2008, 09:23:01 AM »
Useful items, like shoes, coats, linens, and furs were taken by Russians long before the Germans even arrived.   If you read SAVING THE TSAR'S PALACES by  Morgan & Orlava you will  understand more of the story. Also, PAVLOSK by Massie.

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2008, 09:48:26 AM »
Useful items, like shoes, coats, linens, and furs were taken by Russians long before the Germans even arrived.   If you read SAVING THE TSAR'S PALACES by  Morgan & Orlava you will  understand more of the story. Also, PAVLOSK by Massie.
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thanks i'll check them out  :)

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Re: what happened to OTMA's clothes?
« Reply #164 on: July 25, 2008, 09:56:15 AM »
Hi Robert,

Will do. In fact I have Pavlosk and have not read in some time.

Trust you are well

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