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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2006, 12:59:14 PM »
so jewish people were in tsar's household? a bit strange concerning his amniosity towards jews in general
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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2006, 07:31:30 PM »
The info Tsarfan gave is very helpful in understanding this issue.

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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2006, 06:55:56 AM »
I've read somewhere the woman wore make-up only for official photo's and when they had a cold ( red noses etc.)
And maybe íf the grand duchesses had acne, they would remove it at the photo's, remember that Alix did that to with her face in this photo.

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« Reply #93 on: May 21, 2006, 12:54:32 PM »
Sorry for my ignorance but did Max Factor wrote a memoir about his experiences in Imperial Russia? If so, please give the title of the book. Thank you. :)
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« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2006, 12:55:47 AM »
I'm not too much of an expert on this subject. Just visit here and down at the "Few things people don't know about Anya!" part.

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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2006, 05:48:53 AM »
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Okay, this topic has been bugging me for a while now.  
Why did the grand duchesses smoke?  Personally there is no way on Earth I would ever have allowed it.  Granted I know it was different back then...so sue me for being the softie :-[  I guess I care too much.   :'( >:(

I quite agree with you on that TsarCharles87, but I think we are thinking the modern way, smoking was a fashion during their time and they didn't know the effects smoking does to their health back then. Btw, this topic has also been discussed on couple of threads:

OTMA Smoking

Grand Duchesses' smoking
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« Reply #96 on: May 23, 2006, 11:10:04 AM »
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 Personally there is no way on Earth I would ever have allowed it.  then...so sue me for being the softie :-[  :'( >:(

Even in the middle of a desert? :-?  A bit of tolerance is never harmful. I understand that some people feel bad close to a smoker but it's not a shame to smoke!!!!!

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« Reply #97 on: May 23, 2006, 04:43:13 PM »
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Okay, this topic has been bugging me for a while now.  
Why did the grand duchesses smoke?  Personally there is no way on Earth I would ever have allowed it.  Granted I know it was different back then...so sue me for being the softie :-[  I guess I care too much. :'( >:(

How do you know that you wouldn't have allowed it?  If you had lived in that time, your knowledge about the harmful effects of smoking plus your attitudes towards it from a social aspect would have been totally different.

What we know today about health issues and smoking was not there.  It was a very grown up treat back then for young people.  It was also thought to have a quieting effect and be soothing to the throat.

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« Reply #98 on: May 23, 2006, 04:49:47 PM »
[size=10]Quite true Grace.

What was the 'norm' of yester year was truly in vogue. Though I must say, that many people, royalty or not, were very apprehensive at their children taking up smoking. It was the same taboo as dancing for some people. But for many others, royalty including, it was the 'in' thing, and many did not wish to be left behind. Social norms of that day allowed it to be ok. Even the advertising sold it lock, stock and barrel. With that kind of support, who would have let it go by? I did not know however that some thought it to be a quieting effect or soothing effect for the throat. How sad they came to think that this is what it provided. [As a personal note, my dad had cancer of the throat and lips. So it was injurious, indeed]

Thanks for your input Grace !

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Okay, this topic has been bugging me for a while now.  
Why did the grand duchesses smoke?  Personally there is no way on Earth I would ever have allowed it.  Granted I know it was different back then...so sue me for being the softie :-[  I guess I care too much. :'( >:(

How do you know that you wouldn't have allowed it?  If you had lived in that time, your knowledge about the harmful effects of smoking plus your attitudes towards it from a social aspect would have been totally different.

What we know today about health issues and smoking was not there.  It was a very grown up treat back then for young people.  It was also thought to have a quieting effect and be soothing to the throat.
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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2006, 05:34:42 PM »
Alright, alright...I'll shut the yap.  No more for me thanks, I'm driving!

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« Reply #100 on: May 24, 2006, 02:11:01 PM »
I think Tania is correct. Smoking was more acceptable then, although there were conventions against it by some. People were truly ignorant of the bad health issues it could cause, and some thought it beneficial. But this was long before the day when people could have been aware of the health issues.

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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #101 on: May 27, 2006, 12:38:03 PM »
I THOUGHT OTMA WOULDNT WEAR MAKE UP ESPACIALLY ANASTASIA AS SHE WAS A TOMBOY,,,,,

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« Reply #102 on: May 27, 2006, 07:15:17 PM »
I don't believe they did much. Probably the exceptions was when they were having their formal portraits done. I think they always needed permission from Alexandra first. But perhaps, they were curious and wanted to try make-up themselves.

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Re: OTMA - smoking and make up ?
« Reply #103 on: May 28, 2006, 08:48:42 AM »
I don't think that any young princesses of this time (the 1900s) wore make up. Because it was not yet fashion. On photos, OTMA had always a very natural beauty.
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« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2006, 05:56:18 PM »
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I don't think that any young princesses of this time (the 1900s) wore make up. Because it was not yet fashion. On photos, OTMA had always a very natural beauty.

I agree, I think if OTMA or any other young Princesses did wear make up, it was probably only for formal portraits. Then again since we know official photographs were 'touched up' to erase imperfections they might not have even worn make up then.