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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2009, 08:31:01 AM »
Is it true that the Queen of Spains marriage was anulled after the king of spains death?

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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2009, 06:17:13 AM »
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Is it true that the Queen of Spains marriage was anulled after the king of spains death?

There is a somewhat mysterious entry to that effect in the Wikipedia entry for Louise Elizabeth but no supporting evidence.  She continued to receive a pension from the Spanish crown  until her death (though grudgingly, and it was often in arrears), and I can't see that they would do this if her marriage had somehow been annulled (and how on earth could this have been done?). 

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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2009, 11:03:46 AM »
Louise-Elisabeth's mariage was never annulled, what a strange idea?

She was called "the Queen dowager of Spain" from Luis I's death to her own death in Paris in 1742.

That was also the title written on her grave, in the church of Saint-Sulpice in Paris. Today, his grave and her body don't exist any longer unfortunately, because it was profaned and distroyed during the Revolution, like so many others...

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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2009, 03:34:39 AM »
The one Daughter that appeared to be loved universally in Spain was Mile, de Beaujolais! Louise Elizabeth appeared to be an embarrassment to both Spain and France. After it was decided Louis XV would break his engagement to the little Infanta and marry someone capable of producing heirs sooner rather than later this was of note:

The rupture of the betrothal between Don Carlos and
Mile, de Beaujolais was decided upon by way of reprisals,
and Philip V. even talked of imprisoning the little
princess and his widowed daughter-in-law in some remote
corner of the kingdom, where they should remain as
hostages for the Infanta. But he soon changed his mind,
and on March 23 the two sisters quitted Madrid and set
out for France. The Court, with whom she had been a
universal favourite, saw the departure of Mile, de Beau-
jolais with regret ; while Don Carlos was in despair at the
loss of his betrothed.

At Lerma, the princesses were detained until after
Easter, being treated very much like prisoners of State,

1 This decree had been extorted from Philip V. by the Queen ; but,
on reflection, the King perceived its impracticability, and had recourse
to a whimsical expedient to pacify his imperious consort — one of the
few jokes with which this melancholy monarch has been credited.
Summoning his valets de chambre, he bade them empty his wardrobes
and pack his trunks, as though for a long journey. The Queen, enter-
ing amidst the bustle, inquired the cause of such preparations. " Is it
not decreed," said Philip, "that all the French leave Spain ? I am a
Frenchman, and am therefore preparing for my journey." Elizabeth
burst out laughing, and the order was recalled. — Coxe.

                         
from Unruly Daughters 335

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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2010, 10:34:10 AM »
I was wondering if anyone can tell me where María Teresa Rafaela was born!? I have sources that say she was born in Madrid and others saying at the Royal Palace of La Granja de San Ildefonso..

Which one is it?!

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Re: Felipe V of Spain and his family
« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2010, 03:00:32 PM »
Marie-Thérèse-Antoinette-Raphaëlle de Bourbon, infante d'Espagne, née le 11 juin 1726, était fille de Philippe V, roi d'Espagne et d'Élisabeth Farnèse. Elle était décrite pour être belle et haute avec dignité. Cependant, ses cheveux roux lui valurent quelques remarques désobligeantes lors de son arrivée en France.

Son mariage avec le dauphin Louis-Ferdinand de France marquait la réconciliation entre la France et l’Espagne, parallèlement à celui de Madame Première avec l'infant Philippe après l'échec des fiançailles de Louis XV et de Marie-Anne-Victoire, sœur aînée de Marie-Thérèse et Philippe. Le mariage eut lieu le 23 février 1745 mais ne fut pas consommé dans ses premiers temps, ce qui gêna la dauphine vis-à-vis de son époux et de la cour. Très timide, distante, elle préférait la plupart du temps demeurer dans ses appartements et détestait le jeu.


En septembre 1745, l'union fut consommée, mettant fin aux commérages des courtisans, qui insinuaient que Louis-Ferdinand, âgé de 16 ans, était impuissant. Cet événement rapprocha les époux, qui passèrent dès lors la plupart du temps ensemble, dans une grande dévotion, à l’opposé du roi. La nouvelle favorite, Mme de Pompadour, était détestée par le dauphin qui, avec ses sœurs l'appelait Maman Putain et tout autant par Marie-Thérèse.

Cette dernière fut tout aussi hostile au monarque, qui ne communiait plus depuis des années, et prétendait que «sa timidité l’empêche totalement de lui parler». Peu après, Marie-Thérèse se trouva enceinte. L’accouchement était prévu pour le début juillet 1746, mais le terme se fit attendre, ce qui exaspérait Louis XV. Finalement, elle mit au monde, le 19 juillet 1746, une fille que le dauphin, profondément épris, fit prénommer Marie-Thérèse pour rendre hommage à son épouse.


La dauphine ne se remit pas de son accouchement et mourut le 22 juillet suivant. Son époux éprouva un chagrin extrême, qui persista même après son remariage avec l'intelligente Marie-Josèphe de Saxe.

Leur fille, la petite Marie-Thérèse de France (1746-1748), suivit sa mère dans la tombe en avril 1748, âgée de 21 mois.

Sorry this is in Franch, i'll try to translate later . best r