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« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2007, 01:20:34 PM »
Maria Luisa Gabriela was the first queen of the Bourbons' branch settled in Spain, and also the mother of two kings. She was the third daughter of Anne Marie d'Orléans to her husband, Victor Amadeus II of Savoy. Through her mother, she was a grand-daughter of "Monsieur d'Orléans", Philippe, younger brother of Louis XIV, and his first wife, Henriette Anne of England.
When Maria Luisa Gabriela was just nine years old, her older sister Marie Adelaide was married to the French prince Louis, duke of Bourgogne. Only three years later, she found herself married to Philippe, duke of Anjou, younger brother of Louis. The marriage of Philippe, later Felipe V of Spain, and Maria Luisa Gabriela was a successful one. Maria Luisa proved she was born to become a great queen in the years of the ruinous War of Spanish Succesion. She was strong and energetic enough to gain the sympathy of the people of Madrid.
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2007, 11:44:14 AM »
Unfortunately her sons left no descendants...

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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2007, 12:56:09 PM »
It´s funny...the first wife of Felipe V was a very loved queen and the second wife of Felipe V was a really hated queen...but, at the end, Isabel was the one who assured the dinasty...

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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2008, 04:43:17 AM »
Wonderful description of Elisabeth Farnese's character in this book:  Memoirs of the Kings of Spain of the House of Bourbon...
She spoke several languages and apparently was fascinating in conversation as well as powerful!


http://books.google.com/books?id=zIoLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA155&dq=Elizabeth+of+Parma+Queen+of+Spain&ei=WdaNR-OYCILKiQHa8MQs#PPA194,M1
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2009, 12:31:21 PM »
Is there any books on Queen Barbara of Braganza ?  ???

Not as far as I know, but there's a lot of information on Queen Barbara in the books about her husband and the Queens of Spain in general. Although not beautiful, she was a very cultivated woman and held a splendid court in Aranjuez, while her 'mother-in-law', Elizabeth Farnese, had her own rival court in La Granja.
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2009, 04:29:09 PM »
She was totally beloved by her husband. When she died he fsoon ollowed her to the grave. A real love story...

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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2009, 03:23:54 PM »
Indeed it was a rare case when an arraged wedding prooved to be positive.

Infanta D.Bárbara had had smallpox and that showed in her face.

When Fernando met her at the Caia exchange of the Infantes - Bárbara to Spain and Mariannina to Portugal - he was not at all pleased with the wife that was choosen to him.

But Bárbara won his love and affection through her wit and culture.

The fact that they did not have children helped tie the knots between the couple, sort of Baudouin-Fabiola in the 18th century.

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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2009, 01:42:39 PM »
The fact that they did not have children helped tie the knots between the couple, sort of Baudouin-Fabiola in the 18th century.

Yes, and also because Ferdinand and Barbara probably felt threatened by Elizabeth Farnese and her offspring.
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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »
There was always the rival with offsprings of two families.

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2009, 02:54:25 PM »
There was always the rival with offsprings of two families.

Yes, there were always rivalries within the Bourbon family in several generations. First it was the rivalry between Elizabeth of Parma and Barbara of Portugal; between Barbara, Maria Amalia of Saxony and Louise Elisabeth of France; later between Maria Luisa of Parma and Maria Carolina of Austria; and finally between the Portuguese infantas Maria Francisca and Maria Theresa and the Neapolitan princesses Luisa Carlota and Maria Cristina.
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2009, 03:33:33 PM »
Unfortunately not too much info on the Portuguese Infantas...

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2009, 10:14:41 AM »
She was totally beloved by her husband. When she died he fsoon ollowed her to the grave. A real love story...
The story of the insanity that afflicted FVI during the last year of his life is without a doubt one of the most painful heartrending passages of the history of Spain.

Eric_Lowe

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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2009, 11:39:18 AM »
Would love to hear more about that. Not too much English text cover that period before Charles III...

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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2009, 11:58:56 AM »
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I think that is what she meant... :-X

No, she meant that Fernando couldn't ejaculate.  I've also seen it "written" somewhere, but I don't know where right now, I'll have to check what book it was. But yes, Fernando was not impotent, he just couldn't ejaculate. Rare as it may seem, it was reported in his times and now we know that is indeed possible, so... I think it is quite clear!


Was it possible that the was afflicted w/ an unusually tight foreskin, like Louis XVI of France? I believe the condition is called ptenosis<sp>?

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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2009, 01:43:45 PM »
Philip V of Spain had three daughters overall, all of which were by his second wife Elisabeth Farnese. I was reading about his second daughter the Infanta Maria Teresa, daughter in law of Louis XV of France; personally i know more about her Maria Teresa more then her older sister Mariana Victoria and the youngest sisiter Maria Antonietta;

Mariana Victoria (sometimes Maria Anna Victoria) married the Portuguese Infante José who was later Joseph I of Portugal. she was the mother of Maria I of Portugal, the country's first queen Regnant; Maria Antonietta married the Savoyard prince, the future Victor Amadeus III of Sardinia.

does anyone know anything interesting or funny about the three Infanta's?

-Mariana Victoria, Infanta of Spain (31 March 1718 – 15 January 1781) - Queen Consort of Portugal and the Algarves
-Maria Teresa Antonia Rafaela, Infanta of Spain, (11 June 1726 - 22 July 1746) - Dauphine of France
-Maria Antonietta Ferdinanda, Infanta of Spain, (17 November, 1729 - 19 September, 1785) - Queen Consort of Sardinia

any pictures at all?

i keeep  cheecking here ;)