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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2005, 01:49:09 PM »
Yes, no mistresses - they got off to a rocky start but settled down after 1628, when Buckingham was murdered.

Are you sure there were miscarriages? I know her first child, Charles James, died as a baby, and so did Anne and Katherine.
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2005, 03:08:42 AM »
Queen Henrietta Maria (November 25, 1609 – September 10, 1669) was Queen Consort of England, Scotland and Ireland (June 13, 1625 - January 30, 1649) through her marriage to Charles I. The U.S. state of Maryland (in Latin, "Terra Mariae") was so named in her honour by Cæcilius Calvert, son of George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore.

Born as Henriette-Marie de Bourbon, Princess of France, she was the youngest daughter of Henry IV of France and Maria of Medici and the sister of the future Louis XIII of France. Her father was killed before she was one; her mother was banished in 1617.

She was born at the Louvre Palace and brought up as a Roman Catholic. This made her an unpopular choice of wife for the English King, whom she married by proxy on May 11, 1625, shortly after his accession to the throne. They were married in person at St Augustine's Church, Canterbury, Kent, on June 13, 1626. However, her religion made it impossible for her to be crowned with her husband in an Anglican service. Initially their relationship was cold. Henrietta Maria had brought many servants with her from France, all of them Catholic, and all costing the King a lot of money to maintain. It is said that eventually Charles sent this retinue home, only allowing his teenage bride to retain her chaplain and two ladies in waiting. Finding her sadly watching the retinue depart for France at the window of a palace, Charles angrily and forcibly dragged his wayward queen away. Charles had intended to marry a daughter of Philip III of Spain, but a mission to Spain in 1623 had failed. Every time the two would meet, they would start arguing, and would separate, not seeing each other for weeks. They would meet again, and have to separate again, because they could not stop arguing.


Henrietta Maria (c. 1633) by Anthony van Dyck.Henrietta Maria was not close to George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham, the King's favourite. Buckingham was murdered in August 1628, probably with the backing of Queen Henrietta and her French faction at the Royal court. After this her relationship with the King improved and they finally found deep bonds of love and affection. Her refusal to give up her Catholic faith alienated her from many of the people and certain powerful courtiers such as William Laud, Archbishop of Canterbury and Thomas Wentworth, Earl of Strafford. Charles, on the other hand, had definite leanings towards Catholicism, and, once he had reached maturity, did not share his father's sexual ambivalence. Henrietta Maria gave birth to ten children, six of whom survived into adulthood, and also had several miscarriages. Their surviving children were Charles, Prince of Wales (b. 1630), Mary, Princess Royal (later Princess of Orange) (b. 1631), James, Duke of York and Albany (b. 1633), Elizabeth (b. 1636), Anne (b. 1637), Henry, Duke of Gloucester (b. 1640), and Henrietta Anne, Duchess of Orleans (b. 1644).

Henrietta Maria increasingly took part in national affairs as the country moved towards open conflict through the 1630s. She allied with Puritan courtiers to deflect a diplomatic approach to Spain and sought a coup to pre-empt the Parliamentarians. As war approached she was active in seeking funds and support for her husband, but her concentration on Catholic sources like the Pope and the French angered many in England and hindered Charles' efforts.

In August 1642, when the conflict began, she was in Europe. She continued to raise money for the Royalist cause, and did not return to England until early 1643. She landed at Bridlington in Yorkshire with troops and arms, and joined the Royalist forces in northern England, making her headquarters at York. She remained with the army in the north for some months before rejoining the King at Oxford. The collapse of the king's position following Scottish intervention on the side of parliament, and his refusal to accept stringent terms for a settlement led her to flee to France with her sons in July 1644. Charles was executed in 1649, leaving her almost destitute.

She settled in Paris, appointing as her chancellor the eccentric Sir Kenelm Digby. She angered both Royalists in exile and her eldest son by attempting to convert her youngest son, Henry, to Catholicism. She returned to England following the Restoration in October 1660 and lived as 'Dowager Queen' at Somerset House in London until 1665 when she returned permanently to France. Her financial problems were resolved by a generous pension. She founded a covent at Chaillot, where she settled.

Henrietta Maria died at Château de Colombes, and was buried in the Royal tombs at Saint Denis Basilica near Paris.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Maria

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2005, 02:54:26 PM »
Henrietta Maria not only refused to be crowned, she refused to attend the coronation ceremony, even from a closed box in the Abbey.  She also refused to take part in the coronation procession through London, or the other celebrations.  King Charles had postponed his coronation until she could come to England and be part of the festivities.  Her decision not to participate in any of the events cost her dearly in terms of popularity.

It cost her dearly in another way too.  When France and Cromwell were negotiating a treaty in the 1650's, an attempt was made by France to get Henrietta Maria's marriage contract honored, and to have her dowry returned to her.  Cromwell refused to give her the money, claiming that she had violated the marriage contract by refusing to be crowned, so there was no need to honor the financial provisions of the contract.

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2005, 03:34:06 PM »
Yes Henrietta and Public Relations........ :-/
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2005, 03:35:20 PM »
she was her mother's daughter after all...  ::) marie of medici didn't know much about public relations herself.

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2005, 06:01:06 PM »
Charles and Henrietta’s marriage was unhappy for the first few years in part because of the antics of her entourage, which backed her ultra-Catholic stance and actions.  However, the biggest cause of their unhappiness was Charles’s devotion to one of his late father’s male prostitutes, George Villiers, a charismatic dimwit who hated his fellow dimwit, Henrietta Maria, on sight.  Villiers did all he could to keep the couple estranged.   Henrietta consoled herself by buying jewelry that her husband could not afford, going with her confessor to pray at Tyburn, and so forth.  There were scenes and fights between the couple.  Matters were not helped by the fact that the public blamed Henrietta for not immediately producing an heir, adding to her unpopularity.

Villiers had been ennobled as the Duke of Buckingham by King James and enriched with royal lands and important posts.  Villiers had dominated James’s foreign and domestic policies, revealing his incompetence on a grand scale and alienating Parliament, managing somehow to befriend Charles in the process.  There is no evidence that Charles and Villiers were lovers, but Villiers disastrously controlled Charles after he became king, and was richly rewarded for his myriad blunders.  Charles shut down Parliament when it attacked Villiers, who was murdered in 1628.  

Thanks to the power vacuum caused by Villiers’s murder, Charles turned to Henrietta for guidance, leadership and support, and their love bloomed; he became dependent on her.  Unfortunately, her stupidity, arrogance, and bigoted Catholicism made her a treacherous guide in the world of English politics.  She never took the time to learn much about England or the English, but simply expected things to be done as they were in France, where her brother, Louis XIII, regularly and successfully cracked down on anyone who questioned his power.  

Although Charles became devoted to her, she could never forget Villiers, and was determined that no one else would have the same strong influence on her husband as he had had; she did not want a rival for Charles's time and affection.  Their Court became filled with favorites, sycophants and yes-men who flattered both Henrietta and Charles, encouraging their dream of absolutism.   No one at court dared to try to come between the couple again, or cause any problems for Henrietta, even as she became more and more unpopular with the public for her lavish lifestyle, ostentatious Catholicism, conversions of courtiers, and so forth.


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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2005, 06:50:04 AM »
When she returned to England having gathered support for the Royalist cause on the continent, she styled herself 'Her She Majesty Generalissima'.

I think she can be summed up by the fact that she was very Catholic, and very French, and remained that way her whole life!
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2005, 07:14:48 AM »
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When she returned to England having gathered support for the Royalist cause on the continent, she styled herself 'Her She Majesty Generalissima'.

I think she can be summed up by the fact that she was very Catholic, and very French, and remained that way her whole life!



Very true, Prince, but not only that, she was very similar to her mother, Marie de Medicis, in all ways except in their physical appearance!

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2005, 07:18:51 AM »
And ironically, her and Marie didn't even get on well! She was most discomfited by Marie's visit to England in the 1630s.
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2005, 07:20:20 AM »


Everyone would have felt uncomfortable with Marie in their country. She was "persona non grata" for nearly every monarch of her times! I think Felipe IV of Spain and Queen Isabel, daughter of Marie, refused to let her enter in Spain!

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2005, 07:22:31 AM »
And quite right they were too, considering the trouble and expense she caused her son in law, Charles I!  ;D
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2005, 08:01:18 AM »
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And quite right they were too, considering the trouble and expense she caused her son in law, Charles I!  ;D


At the Louvre there is a whole room full of the paintings which Marie commissioned from Rubens depicting scenes of her life. The overall effect is unintentionally comic. Incidents such as the time when she was thrown out of France are recreated as "The people of Paris begging Queen Marie to come back soon" etc.

So Marie at least tried to have good PR, even if nobody was convinced.


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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2005, 02:30:00 PM »
Henrietta's paintings, which were part of the PR of the Stuart court, were very flattering.

Her niece Sophia wrote that:

"The fine portraits of Van Dyck had given me such an idea of the beauty of all English ladies, that I was surprised to find the Queen (so beautiful in her picture) a little woman with long lean arms, crooked shoulders, and teeth protruding from her mouth like guns from a fort.  She did me the honor to say that she thought me rather like Mlle her daughter.  So pleased was I, that from that time forward I considered her handsome."

Sophia met Henrietta and her daughter Mary in 1642 when they came to Holland.

Henrietta did win some good PR during the Civil War through her bravery under fire when she returned to England in 1643.  She left a place of safety and returned to her lodgings, which were under bombardment by English warships, to rescue a beloved pet dog.

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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2005, 02:39:37 PM »
When Sophia mentioned 'Mlle her daughter', she meant Minette. Sophia was flattered to be compared with Minette, who then regarded as beautiful.
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Re: Henrietta Maria, Queen of the Cavaliers
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2005, 02:46:07 PM »
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When Sophia mentioned 'Mlle her daughter', she meant Minette. Sophia was flattered to be compared with Minette, who then regarded as beautiful.



Except Sophia was much older than Minette... :-/. Surely she was being compared to Mary.
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