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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2005, 12:55:44 AM »
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anabel, some interesting facts about M.V.:
- Tsar Nicholas was present at the baptism of her daughter Hedwig in September 1896
- she thought that Princess Viktoria of Prussia wasn´t a nice person, when she met her, but she liked her younger sister Margarete. She said about her:" She is such a lovely little person, that I´d love to get to know her nearer".
- Her opinion about the three Hessian sisters and their brother:" Viktoria Battenberg - rather mean, Princess Heinrich - quite nice and Alix, still unmarried but extremly beautiful. Their brother Ernst Ludwig is still quite boyish.
- when visiting England with her mother, she was afraid of the old Queen



She didn't said anything about Ella of Hesse? Hehe... Marie Valerie's daughter Elisabeth was nicknamed Ella. Do you think she took it after Ella of Hesse's nickname?

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2005, 01:05:32 AM »
Maybe Ella was in Russia and Marie Valerie didn't have a chance to see her?

Marie Valerie must have seen and traveled a lot with her mother.  

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2005, 05:12:42 AM »
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She didn't said anything about Ella of Hesse? Hehe... Marie Valerie's daughter Elisabeth was nicknamed Ella. Do you think she took it after Ella of Hesse's nickname?

Her daughter was named after her mother, Ella was just the Italian nickname, as this was the first language of her husband. Marie Valerie visited Darmstadt in 1891 and maybe Ella (of Hesse) wasn´t there.

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2005, 05:31:17 AM »
Does anybody have the portrait of Marie Valerie and Ella by Koppay? It´s such a lovely portrait, if anyone have it, please post it! :-*

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2005, 05:28:32 AM »
Marie Valerie with her favourite cousin Amalie in Bavaria

Marie Charlotte (or somebody else), do you have any pics of a grown-up Ella? She was said to be the old Kaiser´s favourite and most beautiful grandchild (besides Elisabeth Marie). Are you of the same opinion? I think Valerie´s Hedwig was quite cute, too.

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2005, 03:35:50 PM »



Yes, Franz Joseph loved Ella very much. Marie Valérie also wrote in her diary that Empress Elisabeth, who didn't like little children at all, spent a lot of time with Ella.
Marie Valérie's daughters weren't real beauties. But I think Hedwig and Mathilde were quite pretty. Her younger sons looked strange, but Hubert was quite handsome.

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2005, 04:21:50 PM »

Erzsi was Kaiser Franz Josef's favourite granddaughter but he was devoted to Marie Valerie's children. He hoped that Archduke Karl (later to become Karl I) would marry Elisabeth Franziska "Ella" but the young man had already set his heart on Zita of Bourbon-Parma.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2005, 11:12:37 AM »
Thanks Marie Charlotte and Agneschen! Marie, I have never seen the one with all children in 1926! Wow! Ella wasn´t that good-looking anymore...I have to agree, Hubert was quite handsome as was Clemens in my opinion, but thedor really looked a bit strange (don´t get me wrong  ;)).

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2005, 02:16:42 AM »
Yep, you can find more here

http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Searcharchiv.aspx

Suchbegriff = Erzherzogin Marie Valerie

These great pics show Marie Valérie in 1917. She was 49 years old, but looked much older, don't you think?
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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2005, 08:16:22 PM »
I like this thread because I am a great fan of the habsburg family, particularly of Sisi, Franz Joseph and their children

Marie-Valérie seems to have been very well-balanced, good and generous. People who speak German will find a lot of informations in this book "kaiserin Elisabeth und ihre töchter" (the empress Elisabeth and her daughters) from Martha SCHAD. There are a lot of photos and portraits as well as informations on the three Erzherzogins (Archduchesses Sophie, Gisele and Marie-Valérie), daugthers of Sisi and franz Joseph.


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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2005, 07:30:04 AM »
Marie Valérie was such a cute child! :)

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2005, 07:50:19 AM »
Yes...She looks like Franz Josef very much.

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2005, 07:55:29 AM »
Oh, do you think so? I don´t think that she had much resemblance with her father concerning looks. But she had indeed inherited much of his personality!

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Re: Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2005, 09:45:41 AM »
I think she is the most round up personality. She wasn't as ugly as Gisela or as clever as Rudolf.

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2005, 10:24:37 AM »
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I think she is the most round up personality. She wasn't as ugly as Gisela or as clever as Rudolf.

Very charming! ;) I wouldn´t say that Gisela was that ugly! A bit colourless and hausfrauish maybe. But it seems to be rather rare that daughters of such stunning beauties like Elisabeth become as beautiful as their mothers.