Archduchess Marie Valérie of Austria(-Tuscany)

[Eric_Lowe]

Sisi made sure of that.

[Yelena Aleksandrovna]

But anyways, it was a totally different situation comparing it with the one of her siblings, the
archduchess Sophie died also a pair of years after the birth of MV

[Eric_Lowe]

She was totally powerless by that time.

[Svetabel]

One of the..ugliest dresses I've ever seen on Royal persons and the most balloon-ish sleeves as well.

http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/ImageDetail.aspx?p_iBildID=12427305

[Carolath Habsburg]

she wantes to be tendy. "Jam sleeves" where ultra fashionable in mids 1890s...awful trend such as the 80`s fashion xDDD

[Rani]

I think the most beautiful fashion was in the Empire time. And the 20th of the last century.

[Svetabel]

"Jam sleeves" where ultra fashionable in mids 1890s...

Yeah, I know,but in that one Marie Valerie didn't flatter herself definitely.

[Carolath Habsburg]

and i think no one!. Thats gotta be the biggest "jam Sleeves" i ever seen! xD

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. I would to know who looks good in them ?

[Carolath Habsburg]

That depends about how big are the sleeves, Alicky looked very good in using those sleeves and they werent that big

[Maria_Pavlovna]

One of the..ugliest dresses I've ever seen on Royal persons and the most balloon-ish sleeves as well.

http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/ImageDetail.aspx?p_iBildID=12427305

really, Sissi's daughters had no taste in fashion. In Countess Marie L's book, she comments, which i think is one of the few truths, that Gisela would copy the Duchess Marie Josepha in Bavaria (her aunt). Once the Duchess put on a basket on her head and said to Gisela that it was the new fashion and sometime later, Gisela wear a basket-like hat. The Duchess and Countess only laughed at Gisela. which is kinda sad.

 May sound really strange, but sometimes I even forget that Gisela and Marie Valerie are Sissi's daughters, both girls are very different from their mother in looks and personalities.

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. None of her children inheirited her striking looks or taste in clothes. Sad.

[Rani]

One of the..ugliest dresses I've ever seen on Royal persons and the most balloon-ish sleeves as well.

http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/ImageDetail.aspx?p_iBildID=12427305

really, Sissi's daughters had no taste in fashion. In Countess Marie L's book, she comments, which i think is one of the few truths, that Gisela would copy the Duchess Marie Josepha in Bavaria (her aunt). Once the Duchess put on a basket on her head and said to Gisela that it was the new fashion and sometime later, Gisela wear a basket-like hat. The Duchess and Countess only laughed at Gisela. which is kinda sad.

 May sound really strange, but sometimes I even forget that Gisela and Marie Valerie are Sissi's daughters, both girls are very different from their mother in looks and personalities.

Maria Josepha was so mean??

[Eric_Lowe]

I am sure Maria Josepha had her moments. She had the full trial with her husband Otto, who openly sleeps around.

[Carolath Habsburg]

She s talking about Maria Josefa in Bavaria nee Braganza, second wife of Karl Theodor, not Archduchess MAria josepha, Wife of Archduke Otto.