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GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« on: September 11, 2005, 08:48:46 PM »
Does anyone know the exact time of birth (and day) according to Julian and Gregorian calendar for the GD. Tatiana?  

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2005, 09:50:35 PM »
May 29/June 10, 1897, 10:40am.

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2005, 11:12:57 PM »
Wait...so is Tatiana's birthday celebrated on the 10th of June or the 11th?

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2005, 11:21:45 PM »
11th now, 10th prior to 1900.

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2005, 11:44:04 PM »
Why 1900?

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2005, 12:21:28 AM »
They changed the Julian Calander to Georgian which I think is straight out weird and wrong.

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2005, 12:24:09 AM »
No, they didn't.

After 1900 the calendars went a day more out of sync with each other, so therefore Tatiana's birthday would be celebrated 29 May/11 June as opposed to 10 June.

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2005, 12:07:04 PM »
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May 29/June 10, 1897, 10:40am.

Thank you Lanie for your help.  I have a friend who is working up the Imperial children astrological charts.  He needed the exact time of birth to refine the business!

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2005, 01:47:10 PM »
Tatiana and I have the same birthday then!  ;D Thats neat!
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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2005, 04:21:46 PM »
In Russia of course, during Tatiana's lifetime, the difference in dates between the calendars didn't mean anything. As far as she was concerned her birthday was (and is) May 29. The Communists brought in the Western Calendar, which is, for the most part unsuitable for Orthodox Christianity as it gets everything out of synch. In Orthodox countries where they use the 'new' calendar they have fixed date Feasts like Christmas on the new style, but all moveable Easter related ones on the Old calendar. It creates all kinds of problems. For example, it can mean the Fast of the Apostles ends up being minus two weeks! (That is because the start of the Fast is dependent on the date of Pentecost which in turn is dependent on the date of Easter, but the date for the end of the Fast is unchanging - the Day of Sts Peter and Paul).

To my mind, the best solution is that which we see these days in the Russian, Japanese, Serbian etc Orthodox Churches where ecclesiastic dates are all according to the old calendar, but civil dates are on the new. Thus Christmas is celebrated  on the Church date of December 25, which corresponds to the civil date of January 7.

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 01:03:02 AM »
Tanushka = May 29th/June 11th, 1897, 10.40 am - Tsarskoe Selo

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Re: GD. Tatiana's time of birth
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 02:44:36 PM »
In 1897, 29 May was in fact June 10 on the Western calendar - the difference in dates being 12 days and becoming 13 days in the 20th Century.