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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2006, 03:13:43 PM »
Definitely, the wierdest portrait of Mary. I kind of like it! What can it all mean? ;D

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« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2006, 08:13:55 PM »
That's a good question... I honestly have no idea.  The artist is into well-rendered surrealism, so your guess is as good as mine...

Anyway, here's a sketch that I did of Mary lately- I made her face a cross between her death mask and the teenage Clouet portraits.  I had a lot of fun doing the jewelry. 



You are a very talented artist!! :)

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« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2007, 12:46:11 PM »
Beautiful picture! I think Mary is obviously usually said to be the best looking Stuart. That is most likely true. It is interesting that her son, James I was not at all good looking, but that his children were, and defintely the Stuarts were after that. They were one of the best looking English dynasties.

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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2007, 02:04:52 AM »
i think james was an unfortunate combination between his father and his mother. and i don't think charles 2nd could be called good looking (even if he had probably the most relationships out of all of them)... charles 2nd, actually didn't look very stuart, he was more of a bourbon (i find him very much like his grandfather, henry 4th of france - in looks and personality)
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« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2007, 09:40:44 AM »
I think Charles was good looking, but you are right it was in a foreign, not very English way. I think, though he might have resembled his grandmother Marie de Medici, the Italian side. I read in one biography ( Antonia Fraser's Charles II), that he did. I tend to agree with this. If I got the reference to that biography wrong, or if anyone disagrees, I would love to hear it.

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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2007, 10:35:45 AM »
I agree with you IA, in that Charles II had a lot of Italian in his looks, from Marie de Medici, but I don't think he was good looking at all - portraits of James II when young show him to have been much more handsome, IMO. If you count people to marry into the family, I'd say Mary Beatrice of Modena was the most beautiful of all. ;)
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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2007, 10:38:21 AM »
No, he wasn't pretty-boy handsome BUT I reckon that he had shedloads of sex appeal  ;)
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« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2007, 10:52:40 AM »
I think I was confusing the two. ;) I agree, he was not that technically handsome, but I don't  think James II, his brother was either. Their father had more looks than either of them.

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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2007, 04:15:12 PM »
I think I was confusing the two. ;) I agree, he was not that technically handsome, but I don't  think James II, his brother was either. Their father had more looks than either of them.

What two were you confusing? And you really think Charles I was handsome?  :o
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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2007, 04:35:16 PM »
I think I was confusing sex appeal with good looks in Charles II's case. He had sex appeal, but not really good looks. As for Charles I, he wasn't handsome, but he was better looking than James II.

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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2007, 02:40:48 AM »
I think I was confusing sex appeal with good looks in Charles II's case. He had sex appeal, but not really good looks. As for Charles I, he wasn't handsome, but he was better looking than James II.

uhm... you think?


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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2007, 02:44:46 AM »
... as for charles 2nd... here he is, here are henry 4th and marie of medici:







i think if you ignore the facial hair (and haircut), i personally can see a great resemblance between charles and henry. check out the nose, eyes and lips. from marie and her italian ancestors we can maybe say he inherited his dark complexion. but i can't see much resemblance in the features...

but maybe that's just me  ::)
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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2007, 09:56:00 AM »
I'd agree ilyala - while Charles' complexion (he was a 'big black man' to the Roundheads) came from the Medicis, he seems to greatly resemble Henri IV, especially in the eyes. No doubt something that Henrietta Maria was proud of! She wasn't proud of his complexion though - she said he was 'so ugly' that she'd have to wait till he became farier before sending her sister Christine a portrait!
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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2007, 11:06:02 AM »
That seems correct. What must be said is that James I was the least good looking of the Stuarts. ;)

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Re: Best Looking Stuarts
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2007, 04:43:21 AM »
That seems correct. What must be said is that James I was the least good looking of the Stuarts. ;)

well, why don't we make a comparison with his ancestors?

james 1st of scotland, the first stuart i could find something that could be interpreted as an accurate portrait of:



james 2nd of scotland:



james 3rd of scotland:



james 4th of scotland:



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