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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2004, 12:22:30 AM »
Greg, you forgot Tallulah Bankhead's ROYAL SCANDAL. Gives a rather camp insight on Catherine the Great.

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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2004, 12:39:52 AM »
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Greg, you forgot Tallulah Bankhead's ROYAL SCANDAL. Gives a rather camp insight on Catherine the Great.


Hey Bobby-

Didn't bother to include Catherine the Great or others, since I was trying to focus just on N/A and family.  But I agree!  There are a number of Catherine the Great films-the Elisabeth Bergner one, which actually copied a lot of Rastrelli detail from the Catherine Palace for the sets; "The Scarlet Empress" (my favorite, utterly campy and overblown, but so lush), and "Great Catherine" with Jeanne Moreau (actually pretty funny), among others.  The Romanovs must hold the record for dramatic portrayals in films for any ruling family-you have the films on Peter the Great, Catherine, "Katia" about Alexander II and Princess Dolgorukaya, a couple with portrayals of Alexander III, and then N/A and family!

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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2004, 12:03:32 PM »
Janet - I have VHS video on Livadia that I have to convert to US standard.  I got it two years ago.  I have never been able to see it.

Also, thanks Greg for bringing up the wonderful film "Great Catherine" - a filmed version of the G.B. Shaw play.  It also stars Catherine O'Hara and Peter O'Toole - right?  I have it somewhere.  Lots of fun.

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2004, 03:31:20 AM »
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Janet - I have VHS video on Livadia that I have to convert to US standard.  I got it two years ago.  I have never been able to see it.

Also, thanks Greg for bringing up the wonderful film "Great Catherine" - a filmed version of the G.B. Shaw play.  It also stars Catherine O'Hara and Peter O'Toole - right?  I have it somewhere.  Lots of fun.

Bob


Bob-

I've got a lot of Russian videos on the Imperial Family and on the palaces, too, that need to be transferred.  Penny found a place near her that was quite reasonable for rates, if you're interested!

Yes-"Great Catherine" did indeed have Peter O'Toole-he played an English officer, if I recall-who enacted the Battle of Bunker Hill or some Revolutionary War battle with Catherine, using scale models, and both of them firing miniature cannon with live rounds at each other!  I also liked (not for historical accuracy, but sheer comedy) Zero Mostel as Potemkin-he kept switching his eyepatch from one eye to the other throughout.

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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2004, 11:32:55 AM »
I wish I could find my recording of "Great Catherine"!

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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2004, 01:36:02 PM »
For those of you with videos, would you be interested in selling copies once they've been converted?  

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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2004, 02:25:23 PM »
Even before I read Massie's book, I saw the film, "Nicholas and Alexandra," and was hooked.  Recently I purchased a DVD edition and watched with a more critical eye.  As I realized after my research began to take hold, the film has a few inaccuracies--nothing really awful--but, in my opinion, its only flaw is that the story is so huge, it's difficult to tell it within such a short time span.  Location shooting in Russia was not permitted, as I understand, but I think the Spanish backgrounds are good . . . tho' after visiting the real Livadia, how I wish they had been allowed to film at that site in particular!  I did feel the script was wonderful, given how much needed to be compressed, and especially since three stories were being juggled--the Romanovs, the "common man" (the same man seen at a number of situations, including Bloody Sunday), and the revolutionary leaders themselves.  For me, Janet Suzman and Michael Jayston are the definitive Alexandra and Nicholas.  However, I will admit that the "Fall of Eagles" program--with Stephen Kay, I believe, as Nicholas--was very well done, and I hope it will be rereleased.  The HBO program was impressive--told more from the Rasputin viewpoint, of course--but although all were excellent, I still prefer Suzman and Jayston.  (And I think more should be said re: Jayston's performance; some of the scenes deleted from the theatrical cut are in the DVD, and he is wonderful in his talk to Alexei during their imprisonment.) Ethel Barrymore, I believe, even met the Empress.  The film itself is a mishmash--a mess, in fact!--because it was thrown together so quickly, and the focus was on the three Barrymores.  But still, it is a curiousity that Romanov fans will enjoy. "Russian Ark" is visually a feast.  Forget about storyline, and put aside the fact that we don't see "our" Romanovs for too long . . . just enjoy the rare treat of seeing the Winter Palace!

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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2004, 03:13:01 PM »
Nicholas and Alexandra was shot in Spain? Wasn't it (also)  filmed in Yugoslavia?

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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2004, 04:55:10 PM »
I understood it to be Spain. My DVD copy of the film is currently out on loan, but when I can I'll check the new bio on producer Sam Spiegal; probably the answer is somewhere within that book's pages.

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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2004, 06:04:54 PM »
Hello Janet,
You were right, it was filmed mainly in Madrid and its outskirts. The Winter Palace is the Royal Palace or "Palacio de Oriente". Tsarskoe Selo is "La Granja"(The Farm), and the Station is, in fact, the Atocha station, sadly famous now in Spain for the terrorist attack we´ve suffered.
I think Livadia was filmed( i´m not sure) in Mallorca.

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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2004, 09:22:18 PM »
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Hello Janet,
You were right, it was filmed mainly in Madrid and its outskirts. The Winter Palace is the Royal Palace or "Palacio de Oriente". Tsarskoe Selo is "La Granja"(The Farm), and the Station is, in fact, the Atocha station, sadly famous now in Spain for the terrorist attack we´ve suffered.
 I think Livadia was filmed( i´m not sure) in Mallorca.
 
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To add a little more to this:

Is La Granja another name for Aranjuez?  That's the palace seen as the Alexander Palace exteriors.  The balcony scene after the declaration of War, as well as one scene with Rasputin and Alix looking out a window while Alexei rides a pony below, were both shot at the Royal Palace in Madrid.  But they also used a long shot of a palace or building to represent the Winter Palace during the Bloody Sunday scene-and I have no idea where that was.  It doesn't resemble any Spanish palace I've seen-maybe you know more about this?  The pressbook for "N/A" doesn't mention it by name.

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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2004, 05:39:57 AM »
Hello Greg!
You are right, somehow i forgot that. La Granja appears only once(Nicholas and Alexey go for a ride and Alexandra is looking through the window and then kiss Rasputin´s cross), and the palace of Aranjuez is used as the Alexander Palace. Aranjuez and La Granja are two different places, being the first baroque in style. Thanks for the comment!

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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2004, 05:57:54 AM »
Hi again,
I´m looking over the press book of my dvd. I think the scene you told of Alexey with the pony is that i wrote before and was shot in La Granja of Segobia. I don´t know where is the palace used for the Bloody Sunday scene...could be some kind of scenery? there´s a lot of frog...but it´s supposed that everything was filmed in Spain and the interiors were done in the Sevilla Studios. They were filming from november 30th of 1970 to April 17th of the following year.
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2004, 02:21:46 PM »
I was in Madrid and Aranjuez but didn't at all recognize those palaces as the locations used for the film. I think I had better watch it again and look at my photos and palace guides again more closely   :D

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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2004, 02:33:14 PM »
Well, the whole point of movie making is illusion, isn't it?
So with special effects, editing & imagination, anything is possible. [even in the days before "Star Wars"].